Guest Fortuna Posted January 22, 2018 Hey guys, i'm really struggling with this image being cut twice. I create the image on photoshop, save it, take it to Illustrator to vectorize it, save it as an .SVG then bring it to Vinyl Master. Once I get there, I get a box around the image that I do not want and also, if I zoom all the way in, I can see the image is there twice. It's not exact but there is definitely more than one pass. Please help! What am I doing wrong? Scott_Megan_Wedding_Logo.svg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,298 Posted January 22, 2018 there would be 2 layers one on top of the other - delete one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fortuna Posted January 22, 2018 in vinyl master or illustrator? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Primal Decals 621 Posted January 22, 2018 @Guest Fortuna - I would check it in Ai.........I helped someone not long ago on something similar with this, Vm wasnt showing hidden layers and was cutting crazy. Opened the file in Ai and there were like 3 layers plus the main cutting layer. If you need help let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darcshadow 1,641 Posted January 22, 2018 It'd also be worth your time to work with and learn AI so that you can do your design in AI and skip the vectoring portion. Vectoring is never as good as an original vector, especially when fonts are involved. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Primal Decals 621 Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, darcshadow said: It'd also be worth your time to work with and learn AI so that you can do your design in AI and skip the vectoring portion. Vectoring is never as good as an original vector, especially when fonts are involved. I would be willing to teach a little if wanted... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Fortuna Posted January 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Primal Decals said: I would be willing to teach a little if wanted... I'd love to learn what I could of Ai! I don't know much other than having used it for tracing to create a vector but obviously it's giving me troubles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crome 53 Posted January 23, 2018 Just separate in VM, select your image, right click it and then select ungroup. select the image again and just pull one layer off of the other Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Primal Decals 621 Posted January 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Guest Fortuna said: I'd love to learn what I could of Ai! I don't know much other than having used it for tracing to create a vector but obviously it's giving me troubles. Ill do it for free bud of what i know. Send me a pm and we can chat about it if you want for more info.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VinylMaster 148 Posted January 25, 2018 Also, if you want to know what's in a document use the Object Manager: 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lynn Posted November 18, 2018 I am getting double text. I have made similar vinyl and not had this problem. I create in Adobe Photoshop, save as jpeg and under "Images" choose vectorize. it traces and places in the vinyl master document. I then choose "cut" from the file menu. As you can see, in the "object manager" there is only 1 page. It shouldn't double cut. What could I be doing differently from the last time? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,720 Posted November 18, 2018 Why are you using so many steps to make text? Just do it in Vinyl Master with the text tool. It would already be a vector. Or do it in FREE Inkscape. You don't vector text. You create it from within the vector program. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jp450r 1 Posted November 18, 2018 save it as a jpeg from PS and bring it into VM and vectorize it there.............DONE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,720 Posted November 18, 2018 19 minutes ago, Jp450r said: save it as a jpeg from PS and bring it into VM and vectorize it there.............DONE You only vector text as a last resort, when you can't find the fonts. Fonts don't vector smooth. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haumana 1,227 Posted November 18, 2018 20 minutes ago, MZ SKEETER said: You only vector text as a last resort, when you can't find the fonts. Fonts don't vector smooth. amen. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jp450r 1 Posted November 19, 2018 20 hours ago, MZ SKEETER said: You only vector text as a last resort, when you can't find the fonts. Fonts don't vector smooth. I have never had that problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darcshadow 1,641 Posted November 19, 2018 Really? What are you using to vectorize? Would love to see an example of text you traced with no problems. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haumana 1,227 Posted November 19, 2018 18 hours ago, Jp450r said: I have never had that problem. yes, inquiring minds want to know. do tell, what program are you using? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jp450r 1 Posted November 20, 2018 I guess i might be talking about something different. I was talking about bringing in an image with text already with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jp450r 1 Posted November 20, 2018 I have typed text in Photoshop around an image and exported it out of photoshop as a jpeg and it vectorized just fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slice&dice 2,467 Posted November 20, 2018 Sure, text WILL vectorize, but if you zoom into the NODES that result from that process/conversion, you'll see it's not clean and smooth, like a font that is typed directly. Here is proof -- (exaggerated, but shows typical result). vector conversion of Text 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jp450r 1 Posted November 20, 2018 Not sure if i am not doing what y'all are talking about but here is a text document i did in photoshop and took it into VM cut. Here it is after i vectorized it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,720 Posted November 20, 2018 The only way you can tell if you have clean vector files it to put it on wire frame and zoom it up big. You did not post the vector file , only a jpeg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darcshadow 1,641 Posted November 20, 2018 What resolution is your jpeg file. An extremely high resolution can result in decent Text trace but it'll still be better to type the text out in the vector program rather than doing a conversion. Here's an example. The top is the vector the bottom is the jpg, as you can see the larger word did trace pretty good, although not perfect, where as the smaller version is not good at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,298 Posted November 20, 2018 Just my take is jp45r is only comfortable working with raster graphics and has no drive to produce the cleanest vector graphics. if he/she is only interested in producing graphics good enough for their expectations that is no skin off my teeth and makes them easier to compete against. Many of us work to put out the best work they can. You can sell products that are the best you can make them or you can sell ones that are "good enough" to sell. It's a choice and much like trying to change someones political or religious views on social media - you won't change their view unless they want to see the facts - which is seldom until it effects them in a personal way. you will notice that every single one of the "old timers" that have tried to help are the ones that have been producing clean graphics for years and make a decent living at it - those that produce a product that is just "good enough" don't last that long in a crowded market. Just my 2 cents 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
