Republican VP Pick

[rebjr 0]

Rodger, I agree on Military experience. I am not a personal fan of CP, but I do beleive he would have been a good executive. But, as with others I 'spect he had his fill of politics.

[Rodger 527]

Hi ,

This is an AGREEABLE place sometimes , LOL . Seems we have some " I agree " humor between some of us going around .

regards , Rodger 

[Cuttter 1]

I won't vote this time, there isn't anyone worth voting for.

[Rodger 527]

I won't vote this time, there isn't anyone worth voting for.

then you forfeit your right to complain 

[haumana 1,220]

I won't vote this time, there isn't anyone worth voting for.

Maybe Jen should've phrase the question ... "Which is the lesser of two evils?"  

[haumana 1,220]

I won't vote this time, there isn't anyone worth voting for.

then you forfeit your right to complain 

touche!

[BossThinksImWorking 4]

Oooh! I just love those popcorn-chomping-afraid-to-miss-a-thing, emoticons! Too cute!

Carol

[BannerJohn 1,324]

I won't vote this time, there isn't anyone worth voting for.

then you forfeit your right to complain 

I earn the right to complain because I pay taxes and support the government. NOt because I vote or do not vote.  I voted for Gore in 2000. He won the popular vote. So much for your vote counting.

[Benr98 40]

This topic could go on FOREVER....always with people agreeing, disagreeing, arguing and laughing...

I really don't feel our votes count either.......some higher ups...do all that deciding for us.  I wish I was wrong about that.......but they sure aren't going to come right out and say, 'HEY MY FELLOW AMERICANS..WE DON'T COUNT YOUR VOTES ANYWAYS, SO STAY HOME'........ 

Jenny

[RegisG 0]

Everyones' vote does count!  This is a wonderful country with opportunity for all.  Our nations founders were wise enough to know this is a nation of "united" states.  Just because a view or fad is very popular in very high population centers (e.g. san fancisco, New York city, etc) that is no reason for the entire nation to be dragged down.  That is precisely why we have an electorial college process, to prevent a large population center (including its ballet stuffers) from deciding for our nation.  Some hollywood and some media elitests try to denigrate this wonderful nation and persuade the masses to go downhill with them.  Un-fortuantely, there are a lot of people that can easily be dragged down (without complete facts).  For example, you would think our nation's economy is currently bad under the tutaledge of the current administration.  Well, we currently have greater GDP growth that UK, Japan, Italy and ALL other major nation.  We have greater employment that ever in our history.  This IS a great nation!  It is still the greatest place on earth to live, work, and serve our fellow man/woman.  We are a generous nation and want our people to live well and prosper (the media and hollywood elitest don't think this way though).  There are poor in every naton but, our poor have opportunity to grow and improve themselves.  Even a smalltown fisherwoman can grow to greatness in these UNITED STATES.     

Thank you,

Regis

[Rodger 527]

John , You are alot more knowledgeable than I am about polictics but didn't clinton win by electorial votes also ? not by the popular vote ?

  Anybody who can speak , can complain ... with or without any philosophical right or not  . If anybody doesn't vote , they didn't even try to make a difference & then complaining has less credibility IMHO . I think uninformed people should not vote . Seems it's a dog & pony show where smiling faces , waving hands , shaking hands & kissing baby's get more attention & effects the election more than what credability the candidate has . Gets very involved because unless a law is exact , the politician might vote to veto it & reword it different , so very hard to have a spread sheet on what values the politician really has . I seen a cartoon caption about a candidate 16 years ago . He was getting off a plane & the caption said " Where am I & what do I believe in ? "  . Knowing what the candidates have done or not done is what i base my decision on . Political parties seem to hinder progress , the best person should get the job , not just the best person within a persons political party preference .

[BannerJohn 1,324]

Everyones' vote does count!   This is a wonderful country with opportunity for all.   Our nations founders were wise enough to know this is a nation of "united" states.   Just because a view or fad is very popular in very high population centers (e.g. san fancisco, New York city, etc) that is no reason for the entire nation to be dragged down.  That is precisely why we have an electorial college process, to prevent a large population center (including its ballet stuffers) from deciding for our nation.   Some hollywood and some media elitests try to denigrate this wonderful nation and persuade the masses to go downhill with them.   Un-fortuantely, there are a lot of people that can easily be dragged down (without complete facts).   For example, you would think our nation's economy is currently bad under the tutaledge of the current administration.   Well, we currently have greater GDP growth that UK, Japan, Italy and ALL other major nation.  We have greater employment that ever in our history.   This IS a great nation!  It is still the greatest place on earth to live, work, and serve our fellow man/woman.   We are a generous nation and want our people to live well and prosper (the media and hollywood elitest don't think this way though).   There are poor in every naton but, our poor have opportunity to grow and improve themselves.   Even a smalltown fisherwoman can grow to greatness in these UNITED STATES.       

Thank you,

Regis

3 points here I would like to address:

The 2000 elction was decided in one state...a state that the winner's brother was the governor of at the time.

My dollar buys 30% less than what it did a year ago. 40% less internationally.

The economy of this great country might be fine in the eyes of those who have money to spare..but the working people are HURTING.

Our government takes care of us alright...except for the 40+ million of us who have no insurance and no means of paying for the greatest health care in the world. The US is the ONLY wealthy industrialized nation in the WORLD that does not have some kind of guaranteed health care for it's citizens.

70 years ago a man named Hitler was telling the German people that Germany was the greatest nation in the world. It was propaganda then,and it is propaganda now.

We ONCE were...but politics has reduced us to begging for crumbs from our 'leaders'.

Yes,our poor have the opportunity to grow...but explain that to the thousands in Appalachia who have little to eat and no health care...whose children depend on the Salvation Army for decent clothes.

It is a shame to our nation that poor people (and NOT so poor) have to depend on volunteer organizations like Remote Area Medical for simple things such as eye  and dental care. Our taxes are high enough that these things shouldn't be a luxury.

I wish I was able to live in the fantasy world that the Republicans think we live in. But I don't.

[BannerJohn 1,324]

John , You are alot more knowledgeable than I am about polictics but didn't clinton win by electorial votes also ? not by the popular vote ?

Popular vote 1992 Clinton:44,909,806 Bush 39,104,550

Popular vote 1996 Clinton 47,402,357 Dole 39,198,755

looks to me like he won by the popular vote. Both times.

I voted for Ross Perot in '92,btw. one of  19,743,821 Americans who were tired of the same old crap.

[Rodger 527]

John , I agree with your post , ESPECIALY the part about the poor all over & especially the poor appalachians . I don't know if 1 party can be blamed though . Clinton promised health care IMMEDIATELY 16 years ago , so it seems the president alone can't get anything done . Congress etc  stays behind the scenes & doesn't get much blame . selfish finacial motives & political parties seem to handicap honorable attempts .

[BannerJohn 1,324]

yes,Clinton Promised it,and Clinton tried...but the Republican Majority Congress shot it down at every turn. And that's my point....with a FEW exceptions most Republicans in congress vote the party line...if a democrat proposes it,they vote against it.

Nobody votes for what is RIGHT or what is GOOD...it's all about the party.

Things are getting better though,there are some Republicans (Bob Corker and Jimmy Duncan from my own state,for 2) who will cross party lines. BUt until our 'representatives' start voting FOR THE PEOPLE again,things won't change much.

[Rodger 527]

John , I was going by what conversations I've heard . Nothing like facts 

I also wanted Ross Perot also , a business man MIGHT be able to get things headed in the right direction . That seems to be a big problem , President has the helm , but the rest are not cooperating & then they change the helmsman . NO constant direction for long .  A very futile way to get anything done . BUT I don't know if there is a better way ( find an honest dictator  & then take him out after he gets the job done.. relapse into bad condition & repeat ? )

your last post i could not agree more with " until our " representatives start voting FOR THE PEOPLE again , things won't change much "

BAN political parties !!! 

[RegisG 0]

Sounds like you 2 want to live in socialist nation.......there are some you can go to.   Isn't it wonderful that we are generous people that do go and help those that can't or won't help themselves.  Go, help someone if you are able.   Don't take money from someone else do that.  That is not why we have government.   Government is to protect our nation and administer laws (based on our constitution).    John Kennedy, if he were alive today would be far tooo conservative to run in either party.   We have already gone way toooo far left.

What a breath of fresh air last night, straight talk!

[BannerJohn 1,324]

the solution is very simple: Term limits. I term in Congress,one in Senate. If they elected reps don't do a good job, let the next one try. The problem is they get in there...and they STAY and the job becomes more important that how they do it.

AS far as I am concerned,the term 'career politician' is as dirty a word as any.

Those of you who say 'vote them out'...well it is easier said than done becsue most people vote the party line. In my area,we haven't had anything but a republican in Congress for 100 years! and some of them were real stinkers, I can tell you.

and Rodger, if only people who were qualified to vote were the only ones who voted...the entire country would be run by a a few million people. In spite of advances in technology, and all the money that the government throws at education, ignorance still abounds.

[BannerJohn 1,324]

Sounds like you 2 want to live in socialist nation.......there are some you can go to.   Isn't it wonderful that we are generous people that do go and help those that can't or won't help themselves.  Go, help someone if you are able.   Don't take money from someone else do that.  That is not why we have government.   Government is to protect our nation and administer laws (based on our constitution).    John Kennedy, if he were alive today would be far tooo conservative to run in either party.   We have already gone way toooo far left.

What a breath of fresh air last night, straight talk!

YOu like that word,don't you (Socialist)?

No we want to live in a nation where all are treated fairly,and equally.

WE don't.

"Government is to protect our nation and administer laws" is as simple minded view of things as I have ever seen. Need I remind you that it took a Constitutional amendenment to enact the income tax? It was never the intention of our founding fathers that the people be taxed on everything they do and at every turn. Since the governement has chosen this path, they are also obligated to provide for us basic necessities.

I would love to stay here and argue the point ,but I have to WORK FOR A LIVING.

YOu can't argue with someone who looks at the world through rose colored glasses and makes a statement "Go, help someone if you are able.   Don't take money from someone else do that."

This is selfishness in it's purest form,and implies a lack of concern for anyone but himself.

[Rodger 527]

and Rodger, if only people who were qualified to vote were the only ones who voted...the entire country would be run by a a few million people. In spite of advances in technology, and all the money that the government throws at education, ignorance still abounds.

That is why i think people ignorant to the facts & complexity should not vote , It's like a high school prom popularity vote . MAYBY the few million people that had an accurate understanding would be honest enough to make the right decisions & everybody prosper ( greed eliminates many good intentions IMHO  )

[Rodger 527]

on a humorous note  & copying another thread " Last Post Wins " 

[RegisG 0]

QUOTE:  "You can't argue with someone who looks at the world through rose colored glasses and makes a statement "Go, help someone if you are able.  Don't take money from someone else do that."

John,

There is a huge difference between you or I helping someone and a politician.  A politician sees 10 people "maybe" needing something as 10 votes IF he/she can give them some of your and my money.  You or I would help because we saw a real need and were able to help.  Some people don't know or are unwilling to save for ups and downs in life, retirement, or healthcare.    It is a cheap sell for politicians to get their vote by promising them your money.    I do agree that government (preferabley states) are a good repository to accumulate & disburse short-term needs of individuals.    For those that absolutely need welfare because of whatever missfortune or mistakes life has left them with, put them to work (e.g. 100 men in a month could do the work of a buldozer in a day, or put in 40 hours/week making/serving meals to those 100 or ,,,,,many more ways). 

Also, when the politicians take from "companies" who do you think actually pays that tax?

I sure agree with you on at leat one thing "TERM LIMITS".  And carreer politician is a filthy word.  The only thing worse is NO experience that demonstrates ability to do the next job up the ladder. 

Well, got 2 signs done before this post and have to go work for some more business.    Customers don't grow on trees in my yard!

Wishing you and all others here the best of our wonderful United States,

Regis   

     

   

[BannerJohn 1,324]

My problem,Regis...is that I see a wrong and want to make it right. Today,the US government announced that it is sending 1 BILLION dollars in aid to the country of Georgia. In our own state of Georgia, Poverty is rampant. Is this RIGHT?

I see gas prices double in 2 years while Oil companies show record profits,not only for oil companies but record profits for any company,EVER. Yet these profits are not taxes the same as my income. Is that right?

I see a system of health care that is based on greed and profit and is beyond what most Americans are willing to pay, yet the government does NOTHING to reighn in these costs.(Yet they can regulate your cable bill and phone bill). Is this RIGHT?

I am 53 years old. I have heart disease, kidney disease..I have already had a stroke. I can't get insurance even if I could afford to pay for it. I have paid into Social Security since 1971, and paid average 40% of my income to the government. Yet I suffer daily because the 'great health care' we have is betond my reach. Is this right?

Have a look at our very name..The United STATES. It was the intention of our founding fathers that the federal governement be a losely based structure,that the states should retain all rights and so forth....but the Federal government has taken away most states rights. If the can't take them away,they use blackmail...(example...raise the drinking age or lose Federal funding for a lot of things).

we are not safe in our homes or on our streets....our mail is read by government officials, our phones are tapped without a warrant...our every move is tracked down to the last detail. That doesn't sound like a socialist or democratic government...it sounds like a police state. WE have strayed so far from what we should be and once were that if Washington or Jefferson were to rise from the grave today,they wouldn't recognize the nation they founded.

[BannerJohn 1,324]

for those of you who wonder why I am the way I am...this quote from my Favorite book says it all:

“But you were always a good man of business, Jacob,” faltered Scrooge, who now began to apply this to himself.

“Business!” cried the Ghost, wringing its hands again. “Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!”

- Charles Dickens in A Christmas Carol

[kenimes 42]

Political thread.......ugh.

Thanks for the votes though. Love the video clips!

How's everyones' cutter holding up?!?