ECombs 0 Posted July 19, 2020 I just bought the CE7000 Graphtec Plotter and I’ve been cutting with it and my media moves while cutting because it only has 2 push rollers. I cut a lot on the CE6000 Graphtec plotter and that one had 3 push rollers. Was wondering if you can add another one to this newer model? Anyone have any advice? Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,709 Posted July 19, 2020 Do you have the pinch roller force all the way down on Strong? It does have 3 settings. What type of media? Best to contact Graphtec support for that. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted July 19, 2020 should have my hands on a ce7000 soon so I can answer such questions - it had been 3.5 years since my last upgrade which I think is a new record for me 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,709 Posted July 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dakotagrafx said: should have my hands on a ce7000 soon so I can answer such questions - it had been 3.5 years since my last upgrade which I think is a new record for me I thought you would jump up to another FC next Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted July 19, 2020 I kinda thought so too but if we start snowbirding it will only be a few months a year I still sell 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECombs 0 Posted July 20, 2020 @MZ SKEETER I will have to check that setting! That could be my problem. Today I was cutting black Oracal 651 a 24” roll and I felt like I needed another roller in the middle. The ce6000 I used to use had 3 rollers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECombs 0 Posted July 20, 2020 @Dakotagrafx thanks! Like I said I’m used to using the Graphtec ce6000 and that had 3 rollers, so I thought it was interesting that this new model only has 2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted July 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, ECombs said: @Dakotagrafx thanks! Like I said I’m used to using the Graphtec ce6000 and that had 3 rollers, so I thought it was interesting that this new model only has 2. My ce6000 only has 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haumana 1,220 Posted July 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, ECombs said: @Dakotagrafx thanks! Like I said I’m used to using the Graphtec ce6000 and that had 3 rollers, so I thought it was interesting that this new model only has 2. mine too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECombs 0 Posted July 20, 2020 @Dakotagrafx interesting! Yeah the ce6000 I used for 3 years had 3 rollers and I liked it that way. But I’m going to play with the roller force tomorrow and see if that helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,709 Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, ECombs said: @Dakotagrafx interesting! Yeah the ce6000 I used for 3 years had 3 rollers and I liked it that way. But I’m going to play with the roller force tomorrow and see if that helps. Was the cutter wider than 24"? 2 Pinch rollers are standard on a 24" Also standard on the FC 30" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECombs 0 Posted July 20, 2020 @MZ SKEETER nope, the cutter was also a 24” Graphtec ce6000 and it had 3 rollers. I’m going to try to adjust the roller pressure today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,709 Posted July 20, 2020 CE5000-60 cutters only had 2 pinch rollers as standard. Are you in the US? Or was the pinch roller added? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ECombs 0 Posted July 21, 2020 @MZ SKEETER yes I’m in the US! And it was a ce6000 with 3 rollers lol I used it for 3 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haumana 1,220 Posted July 21, 2020 I'm feeling a little jipped now, I only got 2 rollers. Hahaha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted July 23, 2020 doing test cuts on the ce7000 and first thing is trying to figure out where it is getting its setting from - as I slow it down the first 3 times it speeds back up as soon as it cuts - my cutting computer used a old flexi so it could be that and still using the ce5000 drivers. on the material I also see what the op is saying I think. the material seems to be pulling inside causing a bunch - almost like the pinch rollers have a slop to them and instead of pulling out = they are pulling in. will be working on this more as we get caught up on other things and get back from a short trip next week - I will figure it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted July 25, 2020 I am wondering if this is what the original poster had encountered. I have a lot of seat time on the graphtecs and this is a new one on me - will probably have to wait till first week of august before I can call graphtec support but it is not the amount of rollers causing this, there is something else going on. I did notice the new graphtecs are produced in thailand :/ P7250812.MOV Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,709 Posted July 25, 2020 I guess I put my rollers in further than you do. I keep mine 1.5 inches in from the vinyl edge. But it looks like the vinyl is not laying down. Is the fan on normal? Almost like it is not pulling straight. and pinching up the vinyl. Like it would if you didn't have the pinch roller over the bottom grit roller. I sure wouldn't like that. Even at 30" wide for my cutter. I never felt like I needed a 3rd pinch roller. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted July 25, 2020 I agree skeeter, same way I I have done with all my graphtec as I leave the sensors on. It is over the knurled part, fan appears normal, I even tested different settings and swapped a roller from the 6000 to check on bad roller, it is pulling the vinyl inward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted July 25, 2020 I never noticed the graphtec knurl part is a welded on piece and not a knurl in the roller itself - it looks different on the new plotter here is close up of the right and left rollers on each machine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,709 Posted July 25, 2020 Holy Cow, I don't like the looks of that. Sure changing how it operates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted July 25, 2020 my guess is that tighter spiral on the 6000 crates a slight pull to the outside when feeding, keeping the vinyl tight. Not so much on this new plotter - I sent pictures and video to USC and will contact graphtec when I get back in 10 days - I was shocked this was not a knurl built into the roller like most other plotters I have seen. obviously it has worked well on the older ones. also don't find anything on the 6000 as to where it is made, just made by graphtec japan - so wonder if production moved to Thailand. Did you ever watch the old movie Disclosure with Michael Douglas and Demi Moore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted August 10, 2020 update - I am not going to do extensive testing until my fever goes down (3rd day and lower gi issues) but graphtec sent new "guides" with a 1/4" raised nylon strip that at first try seems to feed better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites