kkeeble 64 Posted December 29, 2016 Has anyone tried to put HTV on ceramic mugs. If so, how long did it last. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go-C Graphics 856 Posted December 29, 2016 HTV is made for fabric. It's as simple as that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeeble 64 Posted December 29, 2016 I've seen it done on mugs but wasn't sure how well it holds up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xpaperman 719 Posted December 30, 2016 8 hours ago, kkeeble said: I've seen it done on mugs but wasn't sure how well it holds up. First..... why HTV? Why not just regular 651? Just a thought. Second... how could you tell it was HTV and not say 651? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted December 30, 2016 why not sublimate and know they will last till broken . . . I've scrubbed sublimated ones with a scotchbrite pad years ago. I have a couple of agencies that have ordered hundreds over the years - I know for a fact the year they went pad printed to save a buck they never ordered those again. within a year they looked terrible 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeeble 64 Posted December 30, 2016 I've used 651 on tumblers many time..I thought of dye sub but i do not have the equipment to do that which means i wold have to out source the job and pay a lot in shipping for the mugs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted December 30, 2016 or buy the equipment and offer a known durable product in full color . . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeeble 64 Posted December 30, 2016 Can you PM me and let me know what 100pcs would cost, minus shipping Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted December 30, 2016 like you stated above it is not cost effective to pay shipping on the mugs from the supplier to me and then pay that shipping back to you after printing and you paying me for the print job - the value is when you own the equipment and can print them yourself. I don't like turning down work but then again I don't like doing something that doesn't make sense just to do it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeeble 64 Posted December 30, 2016 because if i can get the customer to pay for the shipping with there company account it might be worth having them outsourced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted December 30, 2016 I will have to think about it but would run $900 + shipping with your clean artwork and if they ship they are responsible for any breakage. You could do it for 1/2 of that and own the equipment. I am guessing shipping on 4 cases to be around $140ish . Someone with a cobra set up will do it cheaper than us Ricoh people from past experience as thier printer and ink cost less Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Primal Decals 621 Posted December 30, 2016 9 hours ago, Dakotagrafx said: or buy the equipment and offer a known durable product in full color . . ok i have to ask just because im very curious,What do you need to do the print etc and other equipment and steps to apply it in order for it to look so dang good like its laminated with clear over it lol..wow Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted December 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Primal Decals said: ok i have to ask just because im very curious,What do you need to do the print etc and other equipment and steps to apply it in order for it to look so dang good like its laminated with clear over it lol..wow the products have a poly coating and the special ink turns to a gas and permanently dyes that coating so it is a very hard DURABLE surface - just print - heat and cool. I use a sawgrass ricoh printer from uscutter and cactus wraps - the reason I use the wraps is the entire mug goes into the oven so the handle and bottom are heated the same as the rest of the mugs. now I know some use mug presses with good results but after owning about 6 of them (2 geo knights) I could not get a good edge to edge image with no fading near the handle or bottom that suited my standards so I now run 10 cactus wraps - usually 5 in the oven and 4 cooling, remove and apply to next batch before current batch is out of the oven. that way I can crank them out at a good rate when doing large lots the bottom one was for one of the crew from OCC for his wife 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Primal Decals 621 Posted December 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Dakotagrafx said: the products have a poly coating and the special ink turns to a gas and permanently dyes that coating so it is a very hard DURABLE surface - just print - heat and cool. I use a sawgrass ricoh printer from uscutter and cactus wraps - the reason I use the wraps is the entire mug goes into the oven so the handle and bottom are heated the same as the rest of the mugs. now I know some use mug presses with good results but after owning about 6 of them (2 geo knights) I could not get a good edge to edge image with no fading near the handle or bottom that suited my standards so I now run 10 cactus wraps - usually 5 in the oven and 4 cooling, remove and apply to next batch before current batch is out of the oven. that way I can crank them out at a good rate when doing large lots the bottom one was for one of the crew from OCC for his wife That is way cool Dakota.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
