TT57 135 Posted August 12, 2014 what type of printer would be used to print designs on banner material. ? Say I wanted to cut to size for small flags and print design on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrotto 78 Posted August 12, 2014 Solvent / Eco Solvent for anything outdoor. Cheapest new printer is Mutoh VJ628 - ~$6800, or you could buy one used. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tooler82 182 Posted August 12, 2014 We have a Mimaki CJV30-130 we print banners with. It's a solvent printer. Not sure how much it costs since the government bought it though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jarrotto 78 Posted August 12, 2014 We have a Mimaki CJV30-130 we print banners with. It's a solvent printer. Not sure how much it costs since the government bought it though. MSRP $21,995 - Chump change... haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybyrd 3,770 Posted August 12, 2014 If something along the size of car flags look into sublimation. Only way to do it without selling a kidney or taking a second mortgage. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT57 135 Posted August 13, 2014 since Jaybird is probably more in my range, I will look into that. Where to start ? thanks everyone for suggestions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knucklehead 530 Posted August 14, 2014 You can get aqueous printable banner material, to print in an aqueous printer. They'll work for short term, with pigment inks. Which is what a banner is supposed to be, short term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mopar691 281 Posted August 14, 2014 Only problem is that material is expensive and so is the ink. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knucklehead 530 Posted August 14, 2014 May be a couple bucks more. Machine is several thousand(s) less. You can get printed banners all day long for .99 cent a square foot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mopar691 281 Posted August 15, 2014 ya, at a buck a square that is almost ten times the cost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybyrd 3,770 Posted August 15, 2014 A buck a ft. And I get 5 a ft for sending the file. I only do banners in house for long term or rush orders now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knucklehead 530 Posted August 15, 2014 You print banners for 10 cents a square foot? WOW! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mopar691 281 Posted August 15, 2014 do you know what cost is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mopar691 281 Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) So if your buying them for a buck a square. approx 400 banners (4 x 8 ) printed yourself and you have saved over 10k edit/spelling Edited August 15, 2014 by mopar691 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybyrd 3,770 Posted August 15, 2014 4 a ft profit over 400 4x8 banners is over 50k profit. It's all in how you look at it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mopar691 281 Posted August 15, 2014 What does that have to do with cost of solvent versus aqueous material? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mopar691 281 Posted August 15, 2014 Key word here is cost. "cost" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybyrd 3,770 Posted August 15, 2014 I can buy solvent printed for 1 a foot with zero overhead. Therein lies the cost versus buying an aqueous printer or solvent printer. Bottom line with banner is you have to do a crap load of them to justify either type of printer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybyrd 3,770 Posted August 15, 2014 You're figuring 10 cents a foot plus a 10k printer and it takes a lot of printing to offset that part of the equation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mopar691 281 Posted August 15, 2014 ya, 400 banners = 10k. Thats just on banners. And on the savings of just cost alone. Not including the profit you keep saying. 400 banners. That is approx 20 rolls of material. less than 1600 dollars in banner material and maybe $0.16 to $1.00 in ink on each one depending on coverage. That is really not a lot of printing. Solvent printers really are not the horror stories you think they are. Easy to run. do 15 min maintenance once a month. I bought my last new one 2 years ago. Has cost me zero after that. It has paid for itself 50 times over. When it starts to have problems I will sell or scrap it and buy new again without even thinking about it. Before this I had many upon many used ones. Nothing but other peoples problems and huge maintenance bills and so on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybyrd 3,770 Posted August 15, 2014 I'm not disagreeing on those points but we were talking strictly banners and I can see no reason other than a faster turnaround time to buy a printer just for banner. I order in the evening and get them delivered 48 hours later and since I don't have to pay for a printer, ink, msintenance, electric, etc for banners only buying a printer makes zero sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT57 135 Posted August 30, 2014 ok guys, let me show u what i wanted. You all are talking technical stuff and big money. The flag posted is banner material, cut to size, printed background,sewn to have a binding for the flag post (which sticks in the ground) -so small flag, and then decorate open space with address,name or whatever your heart desires with vinyl. Now Printer ?? see how simple this can be. Now if this belongs to anyone you know, i am just asking a question. !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybyrd 3,770 Posted August 30, 2014 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="theresat" data-cid="369909" data-time="1409366162"><p> ok guys, let me show u what i wanted. You all are talking technical stuff and big money. The flag posted is banner material, cut to size, printed background,sewn to have a binding for the flag post (which sticks in the ground) -so small flag, and then decorate open space with address,name or whatever your heart desires with vinyl.<br /> <br /> Now Printer ?? see how simple this can be. Now if this belongs to anyone you know, i am just asking a question. !!!<br /> <br /> <a href='http://forum.uscutter.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=101296'>flag.JPG</a></p></blockquote> ballpark size? Just 1 sided or 2? Here's what I was thinking originallyhttp://www.bestblanks.com/flags.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT57 135 Posted September 5, 2014 one sided Jaybird. Those you tagged at bestblanks are too lightweight for the above type flag. That one is actual banner material. I got my order of them in today. I know it is unprofessional to ask how she does them but i am dying to know. Sublimation i am sure but love the process knowledge. Being a DIYer, i like to know how things are done. Thanks for the input. I will keep researching. Does USC sell sublimation equipment? Guess i will go look. They are near my town so i could go get a hands on if they sell it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaybyrd 3,770 Posted September 5, 2014 If that's regular banner it's probably just solvent printed. You can gang a bunch of designs together and have them printed them separate them when they come in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites