spider2076 4 Posted September 10, 2010 I'm starting to get the hang of vectoring single color images using inkscape. However, multicolored is still a long way off. I'm working on this image now but would really appreciate if someone else with better knowledge or different programs could vector this. Thanks in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
botb78 1 Posted September 11, 2010 Is that a business card scan? Monthly is spelled wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 11, 2010 Not sure if it is scanned. Just noticed that, funny. I'm not worried about the lettering, just need the hammer guy. I've seen him somewhere before. Hoping someone has it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rodh2 16 Posted September 11, 2010 You can get it here. http://www.clipartof.com/details/clipart/9479.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 11, 2010 No vector image there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roxanneupnorth 106 Posted September 11, 2010 Unless you and/or your client want to "steal" someone else work, you are "hooped".....Licenced artwork should not be "re-engineered" if it is not available in a format you need for a project.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 12, 2010 Actually the guy purchased the image already. He just sent me the png file. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roxanneupnorth 106 Posted September 12, 2010 Hmm.....He has a license for the version he has......As far as I know, re-creating it would certainly be against the terms of the license..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 12, 2010 He bought it so he could use it. he's using it for himself, not trying to reproduce it for someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
roxanneupnorth 106 Posted September 12, 2010 Yes he can use the image he bought.....But he certainly can not get it re-engineered..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rrc1962 0 Posted September 12, 2010 I would hand trace it. I trace customer supplied logos all the time. Just use common sense. If a customer brings you a Harley logo, you can pretty much be sure it is not HIS logo. However, in a case like this when the customer brings you an existing business card and wants the same logo, I don't have a problem with it. If you don't do it, I'm sure one of your competitors will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 12, 2010 I started tracing it the other day, painful process..lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mars 45 Posted September 13, 2010 I played around with it - see if this gets you any closer to a cuttable image. It's a tradeoff when you start reducing colors to make something you can layer in vinyl. -Mike hammerman.eps hammerman.eps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted September 13, 2010 nice work mars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 13, 2010 That is great!! What software did you use? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mars 45 Posted September 13, 2010 Thanks - It ain't perfect, but I was bored this afternoon waiting for a paint job to dry and messed with it until I got tired of fooling with it. Hopefully he can adjust the nodes and smooth out any jaggies remaining himself. -Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mars 45 Posted September 13, 2010 Imagaro Professional Z Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 13, 2010 I just looked up that program. $700!! Apparently it's well worth it. How much of the work did the program actually do to the image? Did you change anything afterwards? Do you know if the 'baseline' imagaro z program is worth it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 13, 2010 I just watched the tutorial video... almost fell out of my chair. The auto font finder is sweet!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mars 45 Posted September 13, 2010 The professional has enough extra features to make it worthwhile for me. Look at the version comparison table. http://www.imagaro.com/technical.html The color filter lets you clean up bitmaps faster. Bitmap editing tools are something I couldn't do without either. Moving nodes that lie on lines where two colors meet can be done without any gaps being left between colors - only in the professional version. Text identification is more powerful (tilted - arched etc.) Resolution enhancer increases the bitmap resolution - (this gives you a limited ability to sharpen details in the bitmap - makes the filesize grow pretty fast and it doesn't work miracles - but it is a nice feature) The power of the program is that it lets you manipulate the bitmap graphic and then vectorize - if you like what you get save it and go on - if it needs some work just go back to prepare bitmap and tweak the pixels to get a better trace. -- It does a great job of placing nodes in the best places for easy manipulation of the vector -- it does require some cleanup - but it has automatic cleanup which lets you reduce the nodes in the whole graphic at once buy just moving a slider - or pick a path and move a slider to clean up the path - it puts a preview of the new path whenever you put the slider in a new position - I just move it until it stays close to the bitmap. Or you can select and work on the vector path node by node or section by section and it handles node editing very flexibly and quickly. If you spend $299 on the basic version I think you would soon be wanting to upgrade for the other features - and you would have to spend $470 to upgrade vs. $391 difference to go with professional in the first place. Without investing in Imagaro - you can increase your success in tracing bitmap images by doing some cleanup and enhancing of the bitmap before doing a trace in Inkscape (Inkscape does a nice job with clean bitmaps). And skill at manually tracing in Inkscape will get the job done - just takes some time. Sorry for the longwinded reply -Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 13, 2010 No, that's great. I love the side-by-side comparison it does with Corel, AI, and Vector Magic. I'm still in awe of how the auto font feature works. I need to do a lot of jobs to be able to afford this, but i'll definately give it a shot. Thanks for the help and extra info. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mars 45 Posted September 13, 2010 Yeah google for imagaro videos and you will find lots of them. They make it look so automatic - and it sometimes is just that quick and easy. But there is a learning curve - I can do in a few minutes what it used to take me days and days to get done -- and in an hour or two I can do things I just couldn't possibly do before. I bought mine from Steve Boek at graphicalsystemsusa http://www.graphicalsystemsusa.com/ If anybody gets serious about buying please mention my name (Mike Melancon) - Steve told me he will offer credit toward upgrades for referrals - so I would appreciate it. -Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spider2076 4 Posted September 13, 2010 Ok. What's with the upgrades, they seem pretty expensive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mars 45 Posted September 13, 2010 I have the latest version - and minor upgrades are free (the font database continues to expand) - a major upgrade comes at a discounted price from the full version $190 ($500 off the $690 price for the last upgrade) I would prefer free upgrades, but if they come out with a new version I will probably spring for an upgrade (after I see what the upgrade can possibly improve) The higher priced upgrades are from the basic version to the Pro version. -Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
