theishkid 13 Posted March 13, 2013 I'm looking to buy a 44 roll vinyl floor rack. Does anyone know the difference or have experience with one of these models? They all basically look the same, but there seems to be three brands that I have come across on about 15 - 20 sign supply sites. I'm wondering if it's just one manufacturer making all of them and letting everyone brand them or if there is an actual difference. Image 1 Impact has there model that can be found on multiple websites. http://image1impact.com/heavy-duty-floor-rack Most sign supply websites sell the Orca model. http://www.signwarehouse.com/p-SE-ORCA44.html And then a few of them like my local Fellers sell the Metalcraft model. http://www.metalcraftindustries.net/p-162-free-standing-vinyl-storage-rack.aspx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,298 Posted March 13, 2013 they are all the same one - I have 2 of them and workd great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theishkid 13 Posted March 13, 2013 Do you remember where you got them from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,298 Posted March 13, 2013 bought both used when buying out other people. would love to get downt o 1 someday but the one that was being eliminated has become a rack for already printed stuff I sell "ready to ship" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
koletsb 9 Posted March 14, 2013 Just wondering but what kind of items do you sell that are large enough to be on a stand and are "ready to ship"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,298 Posted March 14, 2013 draping printed vinyl over rollls so they are not rolled and squished alying around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OWJones 1,981 Posted March 16, 2013 FYI - I logged into SignWarehouse to check the price on this - apparently their system noticed that I was looking because I got a call from a salesperson this morning letting me know that they noticed - and that there is an un-advertised special right now on that rack for $180.00 I checked the site and it still shows $199, so you may need to call in to get the deal... or just add it to your cart, then not check out and wait a few days for someone to call and offer you a deal... Price ends April 1, 2013... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theishkid 13 Posted March 16, 2013 Thank you for that heads up… that puts them just slightly over $200 with shipping. I still can't believe they would be the same thing that everyone else is selling for $50 dollars more. But at that price I guess I might be finding out soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcextreme 475 Posted March 18, 2013 Cool stands..good thing i have a welder...i can build my own..lol. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcextreme 475 Posted March 18, 2013 Once i get my rolls of vinyl, i can take the measurements, and make weld together a light weight stand like that one advertised there... and even add a few things, like a holder for supplies (squeegees, knives, etc)...this will be on my to-do list once it warms up outside and i can weld in my garage... that one rack is like $400...wow... i can make that in like $100 of steel materials and then a few cans of spray paint..boom done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theishkid 13 Posted March 18, 2013 Which rack are you looking at? They average between $220 - $260 shipped. SignWarehouse - $221.43 (With current call-in discount - supposably) http://www.signwarehouse.com/shop/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=1ec6966027f143d0ef56365cafb1e7ba&Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SC&Product_Code=SE-ORCA44 Denver Sign Supply - $223.61 http://www.denversignsupply.com/product.cfm?parprodref=1604 Jack Ripper Ebay Page - $228.95 http://www.ebay.com/itm/FLOOR-RACK-VINYL-STORAGE-HOLDS-44-ROLLS-OF-VINYL-PREMASK-DIGITAL-MATERIAL-/200902833649?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec6bdf5f1 Jack Ripper & Associates - $232.06 http://www.jra-signsupplies.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=42 Sign-Mart - $239.54 http://www.sign-mart.com/productdetails2.aspx?filtertype=products&searchtype=4&searchtypeid=17&productid=41& Beacon Graphics - $248.56 http://www.beacongraphics.com/bgllc/Amazing/itemdesc.asp?IC=FSVR2044B&eq=&Tp= HH Sign Supply - $251.81 http://www.hhsignsupply.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=41928 Signs+Banners - $252.45 https://www.signsplusbanners.com/itemdetail.php?sku=B44151&p=Removal+%26+Storage&c=Vinyl+Racks Walker Supply Company - $261.71 http://www.walkerwide.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=FR44&CartID=1 Advantage Sign Supply - $263.98 http://www.advantagesignsupply.com/Metalcraft-Free-Standing-Vinyl-Floor-Rack Amazon - $265 http://www.amazon.com/Floor-Holds-Rolls-Vinyl-standing/dp/B008J4YQK4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcextreme 475 Posted March 18, 2013 thats a good list.. not sure which one i was looking at... it was on some site and had a price tag of like $400!.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theishkid 13 Posted March 18, 2013 So I spoke with my Fellers rep today, and he claims that the Metalcraft stand is superior to the other brands. At about $65 dollars more than the signwarehouse model I would hope so... Funny thing is, when you go to signwarehouse and click on the product page, then click documentation... it brings up instructions that say the manufacturer is Metalcraft. I put in a message with Metalcraft to see if they could tell me if they are making all of them and if the other brands are just slapping their name on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theishkid 13 Posted March 19, 2013 So Metalcraft got back to me this morning... for anyone that is wondering half as much as I am. I said... "I'm seeing these things all over the place... your own site [metalcraft], my local distributor Fellers, and websites like signwarehouse.com, Image1Impact.com, beacon graphics, H&H, etc, etc. Some of these carry the name MetalCraft, some carry the name Orca, some say Image1Impact, and I found another brand that I cannot recall the name. Can you please explain the difference in these products to me?" Metalcraft said... "For starters, the company names you listed have in the past, or are currently purchasing our Free Standing Vinyl Floor Rack on a regular basis. Some companies refer to it as the “Orca” rack, even when they send us their purchase orders for our rack. However, it is entirely possible that companies could be getting the racks manufactured somewhere else and still using our instructions or promoting as our product, when in fact it is not. I cannot speak for these companies, but we (Metalcraft Industries, Inc.) fabricate all of our own products right here in Ocala, Florida. We only manufacture (1) version of our Free Standing Vinyl Floor Rack. There are a couple of different ways to ensure that the product you are receiving is ours - the assembly instructions inside the box in the bag of hardware will be ours and have our information as the manufacturer to contact with questions or issues and the outside of the box also has a small white label on there with a checklist of the pieces inside." So that pretty much answers the question for me. I think it's safe to purchase one of these Orca racks and not feel like you're getting an inferior product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theishkid 13 Posted March 26, 2013 Final update... I can now confirm that the Orca rack from signwarehouse.com is made by Metalcraft and is extremely high quality. I bought it, paid about $215 and some change, shipped to OKC. I love it... just need to figure out where to put it now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcextreme 475 Posted March 26, 2013 Thats good... I may try to make my own..but that takes time..just more convient to order one lol.. I priced out materials and it would cost me about $100-120 so i wouldnt be saving too much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theishkid 13 Posted March 27, 2013 I can't imagine it not being easier and far more convenient to order one of these things. Taking cost out of it... I can't imagine how much time would go in to making something like this and getting it to look this nice. This is honestly one of the best purchases I've made in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites