CRD 9 Posted October 2, 2009 There are 120 um or thicker material available but for what I do (modelcars) it must be thin enough to form them to hollow or round parts like bodies and strong enough to not get them ripped by mechanical forces. Weigth is also and issue. So it is a balance between them all. Paco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbtoutfit 5 Posted October 2, 2009 Yea on the rc cars I'm trying to keep the weight down. Thus why i was asking about the thckness. Eric Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NukleoN 34 Posted October 22, 2009 How come people don't just contour-cut in one pass? You know, print out the graphics with registration-marks, laminate with clear-UV-protective laminate and then contour-cut and weed. The downside is that the paper and laminate end at the same spot, but it simplifies the process. If the laminate is well-stuck to the graphics then everything should be fine in an outdoor application. Is there any reason this wouldn't work? I don't have a working inkjet printer to test this yet. From my research, the way to go for home use is Durabrite Ink only available on Epson on a quality white inkjet paper like Papilion with a clear-overlaminate for max-outdoor life. The clear-overlam provides the necessary UV protection and is a physical barrier too, and apparently makes the colors pop even more. This is the route I am going once I get my Epson Workforce 40. I've looked into the Artainium inks but I don't see any reason to use those other than for the batch application, where ink is bought in bags rather than cartridges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRD 9 Posted October 22, 2009 Nukleon, That is how I work for 1 year now without problems. Paco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NukleoN 34 Posted October 23, 2009 I saw some people talking about various vinyls. I plan to use Papilio's vinyl-paper (white) since they specifically recommend Durabrite inks for their paper. I think using the right products here should really make a difference. Combined with an overlaminate I figure this will be great for outdoor-use. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbtoutfit 5 Posted November 7, 2009 You can simply go one pass. For indoor apps I do this, such as merchandise. But for outdoor use I do the clear layer offset to protect the edges. Going the extra step is something I offer that my customers like that my competitors do not offer. Eric Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NatDragon 0 Posted November 8, 2009 This is a great job!!! I have used my Epson 1280 for years on transfers and have an Epson dedicated for dyesub. I have loved them! I, however, have not tried this idea! This is a must to try, thanks for sharing the idea! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shorty 0 Posted November 17, 2009 Hi guys, I'm looking for some opinions on the best printer to buy for making the decals. Budget roughly $100 - $200. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigjimt 1 Posted November 19, 2009 Epson R-1900 Epson Ink (Pigment) top coat outdoor with FrogJuice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sciondrgn Posted November 19, 2009 Office depot has the Epson 1100 wide format (durabrite pigment inks) for instant $50 off, so it was only 149.99 and Frog Juice as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FatCobra 0 Posted November 19, 2009 I've read the first 7 pages of the thread and didn't find the answer to my question so here it is.... Once the vinyl is printed on, how do you line it up on the vinyl plotter to cut the shape to match? Thanks!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knucklehead 530 Posted November 19, 2009 Claw, how do ya get it for 149? Told me there wasn't any 50 bucks off. Secret handshake, or something?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisj09 0 Posted November 22, 2009 Looks like the Epson Workforce 1100 is back up to 200 I bought mine from Tigerdirect last weekend at 150 and now its not available from TigerDirect. I got I guess. Even at 200 its still worth it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest HowardI Posted November 23, 2009 This is a great thread! Is it possible to use something like orajet media and epson inks with the frogjuice and have good results or do you have to use a vinyl designed for inkjet use? Keep up the awesome work guys and gals! Howard Irwin Support Specialist US Cutter 425-481-3555 888-298-8143 - Option 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shorty 0 Posted November 24, 2009 I found a epson 1400 on sale. It comes with Claria Hi-Definition Ink. Will this work well for the printable vinyl. As well............do most prefer the spray on laminate ( frog juice ) instead of the sheets. I don't have a laminate machine, so if the spray works better I'd go that way/ thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FatCobra 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Thanks ThorsFoundry!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butnz 0 Posted November 24, 2009 Shoppiing list Epson Workhorse 30 with Durabrite ink CIS system with uv ink http://www.cisinks.com/continuous-ink-system-for-epson-workforce-310-with-ink-ciss-cis-p-696.html Printable vinyl - any suggestions? UV top layer - any suggestions? Laminating machine - suggestions? What else am I missing? I already have a vinyl cutter (Roland gx24) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drtre02 0 Posted November 26, 2009 Shoppiing list Epson Workhorse 30 with Durabrite ink CIS system with uv ink http://www.cisinks.com/continuous-ink-system-for-epson-workforce-310-with-ink-ciss-cis-p-696.html Printable vinyl - any suggestions? UV top layer - any suggestions? Laminating machine - suggestions? What else am I missing? I already have a vinyl cutter (Roland gx24) I have an epson 4800 running the factory k3 ultrachrome inks, use inkjet technologies matte printable vinyl and then laminte by hand using the big squeegee and cheap oracal 200 laminate. cost per square foot is high, but works fine indoors and out. ive had some on racecars for up to a year and they still look fine. i wouldnt do anything major with it, but it works when you need something fast and dont have access to a solvent system and cut wont work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
butnz 0 Posted November 30, 2009 I have an epson 4800 running the factory k3 ultrachrome inks, use inkjet technologies matte printable vinyl and then laminte by hand using the big squeegee and cheap oracal 200 laminate. cost per square foot is high, but works fine indoors and out. ive had some on racecars for up to a year and they still look fine. i wouldnt do anything major with it, but it works when you need something fast and dont have access to a solvent system and cut wont work. Thanks. I have a couple bike shops that want some printed decals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azdecals 3 Posted December 4, 2009 FYI... For those looking for the workfore 1100 epson has them onsale at thier website for $149 again. Free shipping. Sale ends 12/5. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=63084675 I just picked up the refurbed WF30 to try this out. It was 39 bucks from epson with free shipping. azdecals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRD 9 Posted December 6, 2009 Howard, If you read all responses you will find an explanation that with regular dye or pigment ink printers you NEED coated inkjet vinyl. Laminating A4 size is very simple. Cut a 1 cm larger A4 size laminate and place the printout on a flat surface. Peel the edge of the laminate a little off. The released sticky side you put at the left top hand corner. This sticks the printout and the laminate fixed to the surface. Then take the rear backing paper of the laminate and pull it to the cross right hand side lower corner. The cross prevents as mucg as possible air bubbles. Take the rear backing laminate paper and place it on the printout. Take a sqeeq and press firmly over the laminate in all directions. If needed you can place this printout with the lamiante over the edge on a simple carriersheet (double sided lamianted poster size printout) and use it this way for contour cut. Then there is no need to use any extra tape to contour cut it. This is how it works for me for a year now with A4 size. No machines needed. A3 can be done too but you have to control it more carefully to prevent airbubbles. Regards, Paco Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigjimt 1 Posted December 9, 2009 have an epson 4800 running the factory k3 ultrachrome inks, use inkjet technologies matte printable vinyl and then laminte by hand using the big squeegee and cheap oracal 200 laminate. cost per square foot is high, but works fine indoors and out. ive had some on racecars for up to a year and they still look fine. i wouldnt do anything major with it, but it works when you need something fast and dont have access to a solvent system and cut wont work. I use a Epson R-1900 factory ultrachrome k2 Ink not for doing wraps.......but works very good for alot of spot graphics.......I frog juice it 3 coats.........dry between coats. and print on Avery Inkjet vinyl for pigment ink only.......has a special coating for pigment ink.......do not use dye base on this........as it won't hold up very long.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest sciondrgn Posted December 9, 2009 Claw, how do ya get it for 149? Told me there wasn't any 50 bucks off. Secret handshake, or something?? It might have been a weekend sale at office depot when I got mine I guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest debogus Posted December 9, 2009 Office depot is running that sale again until the 12th of Dec Share this post Link to post Share on other sites