Thanks for the information dakotagrafx I've been trying to get familiar with these software for two months but tutorials are really not helping me with what i'm trying to do....I've wasted a lot of vinyl and i'm stuck... i can trace a image cut it out no problem but that's all i can do...I don't know how to layer it in different sizes if i wanted to..... all i can do is just size it as is and cut... but that's not what i want to do... Thanks again