Wow! Thanks for all the replies, I am not a seasoned pro on this program, but I have used in the past gerber graphic advantage and a few others in the 1980s that I have forgotten! Ted S, I have been working on some coroplast signs, and also some magnetics, Also some small decals for my mechanic. Not much work, I am a commercial painter by trade for about 17 years now, the 12 before that I was in the Sign trade. So nice to hear from all of you!