screen printing for dummies.
Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:05 PM
how about a write up, or even an helpful link, to an idiots guide to it.
im not looking for just HOW to do it, but just more on what it is. what are the "screens" made of? where do you get them? how do you make them? ect...
i kinda get the put down ink, drag it across the screen, transfers to shirt, but its the rest of the process that alludes me.
is there any kind of tutorial that starts from a one color eps or jpeg image, to a screen, to application, to finished shirt?
Posted 25 October 2010 - 04:45 PM
Screen Printing for Fun & Profit. By, Fresner.
You'll never need another book. Also, google: How to Screen Print. You'll get a bunch of Youtube videos.
Where in PA do you live? I'm in NJ.
Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:04 PM
im about smack dab in the middle of the state.
before i posted, i did a brief google search, and the first 2 i skimmed were very different, so i figured id post here for ppl in the know to point me towards the right videos to watch and not get off on the wrong foot.
conquest, the pic you posted has a transparency. ive seen the darkroom method mentioned with photosensitive .... ummm.. stuff, that you expose with transparencys. is this pretty much the standard method everyone uses? if i only have a laser printer and not an ink jet for transparencies, can i just cut a vinyl design and apply it to the screen?
Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:06 PM
Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:24 PM
Posted 26 October 2010 - 04:41 PM
Michaels and A. C. Moore have limited products and they'll cost you an arm and a leg.
A. C. Moore discontinued all there YUDU supplies, but Michaels still has theirs. They'll work on your screens, but again more expensive.
Posted 26 October 2010 - 05:01 PM
This is the book I SWEAR by. I've read the book by Fresner. Old, outdated, and he's out of business.
It's true it will provide you with the skills, but this one's newer and honestly I have yet to find something Andy doesn't have the answer to.
Also, Victory Factory is here on the east coast. I think silkscreensupplies is on the west coast.
Posted 27 October 2010 - 12:33 PM
the reason i mentioned buying locally at a craft store, i do realize it will be more expensive in the long run, but im just thinking bare minimum just for me to try this out and determine the feasibility of me doing it. im thinking just a small piece of screen, and like a cup full of emulsion to do 1 screen, and a small bottle of ink to test the screen, maybe 4-5 shirts nothing big. the rest im sure i could make, or scrounge.
what for ink do you recommend? i see a lot of "water based" inks being listed, as well as plastisol, or plastiink, or something. im a firm believer in nothing "green" ie, waterbased, as it usually never works as good as the product it replaces.
Posted 27 October 2010 - 03:37 PM
Posted 27 October 2010 - 03:45 PM
Yo might want to find a screen printer who is in your area and ask him if you could visit him. You will have a lot more questions after you see this done. I remember that I did.
Posted 27 October 2010 - 04:24 PM
it is just a copy of benjamin franklins "join or die" block print with a quote from him on it. i already have an eps and have cut it in vinyl, so the artwork shouldnt be a problem.
and, amof, this whole idea came from a comment from the only local screen printer. he made a comment about being swamped and not eing able to keep up, then others, hearing that also, started egging me on. im not totally sold on wanting to do it, but id like to give it a try. so multiple colors is not even an option for me yet.
Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:05 PM
After you try that you'll know whether you want to continue or not.
Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:21 PM
so, what about the ink part? are the water based ones as good as the plastisol? or would shirts require something completely different?
Posted 27 October 2010 - 05:43 PM
Posted 27 October 2010 - 08:24 PM
Posted 28 October 2010 - 05:07 PM
Like helping hands said, the waterbase dries out. You need to put a little Retarder in it. Speedball also sells that.
I think DickBlick.com sells the Retarder too. If you can't find it, buy some Liquid Laxitive from a drug store. I think it's called Glycin.
However, it cost around the same price. I believe Dickblick in in PA BTW.
Posted 28 October 2010 - 05:45 PM
i was in billtown today cuz i had to pick up some dura-coat, and i stopped in acmoore and mike's while i was there.
spent more than i really wanted to for this initial experiment, but that photo emulsion wasnt cheap. the screen was upsettingly expensive as well. i ended up getting a "starter kit" for $60. included a screen, emulsion, a pos squeegee, and 3 inks. the emulsion separately was $30, as was the screen, so this worked out a little cheaper, and i got what amounted to "free" ink.
the cost of the premade screen was pretty crazy, imo. i found some sheer fabric for about 1% of the cost of the screen ($1.98 for 2'x4', compared to $27.98 for a 10"x14" premade) but i dont know how it will work. this is what we shall inevitably in the future refer to as "mistake #1", but im gonna see what happens.
i think im going to forgo my original idea and try something else. its prob going to be a little harder as it will be 2 colors. yeah, i know, wasnt it like 4 post ago i said i was never going to do more than one color? lol.
i think ill take some pics as i go and post them up here, so you all can get a good laugh at my stupidity, and hopefully, to help anyone else in my shoes starting from knowing pretty much nothing. at least i can probably serve as a good "what not to do" but hopefully ill have some good info in here too.
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