flambore 0 Posted October 18, 2008 Has anyone worked with this vinyl? How does it compare to Oracal 651? My use is for custom rubik's cube-type puzzles. They will see a lot of wear and tear, so should be pretty durable. Any unbiased opinions would be appreciated. thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenimes 42 Posted October 21, 2008 We just got it in, and it cuts and weeds good, but not sure of the life. Says it is rated 3-4 outdoor, and about 7 indoor. Not quite the quality of Oracal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flambore 0 Posted October 21, 2008 Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your description. I got an email from Karl Bowman about samples. He said I can get a sample for $3.99 a yard. Is the $10 shipping charge tacked on top of that for a sample? thanks, Frank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenimes 42 Posted October 21, 2008 I am not certain, good question. Karl would know for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flambore 0 Posted October 21, 2008 He replied to my email. I'm just going to have to take my chances. thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duke 12 Posted October 24, 2008 :thumbsup: did he charge shipping??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flambore 0 Posted October 24, 2008 yes. Even for a sample, the $10 shipping charge applies. It's not worth it. For that much, I may as well just buy a roll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenimes 42 Posted October 24, 2008 Best to get a sample if you are already placing an order for some other things to take adavntage of the flat rate shipping. Even if you order 3 cutters- it is still $9.99, so we have to do the same, even for one small item. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaked 0 Posted November 16, 2008 I just purchased the brown vinyl and it isn't weeding for me at all. Is there a trick to it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flambore 0 Posted November 16, 2008 Maybe it's thicker than what you were using before. Try adjusting the force. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaked 0 Posted November 17, 2008 I seems a lot thinner than the Oracal 651 and BGS vinyls I have used before. I tried forces anywhere from 40-70g and it will either not cut enough or it will go all the way through the paper backing too. I have trouble with the vinyl not sticking to the backing when I am weeding. It all comes off. Any recommendations for cutter settings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodger 527 Posted November 17, 2008 Do a search to make sure my memory is correct , but I remember Ken saying 125 grams of pressure & reduce the blades depth . 1/2 of a credit card is what I'm remembering . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenimes 42 Posted November 17, 2008 I seems a lot thinner than the Oracal 651 and BGS vinyls I have used before. I tried forces anywhere from 40-70g and it will either not cut enough or it will go all the way through the paper backing too. I have trouble with the vinyl not sticking to the backing when I am weeding. It all comes off. Any recommendations for cutter settings? Which model of cutter do you have? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaked 0 Posted November 17, 2008 I have an MH 721... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenimes 42 Posted November 17, 2008 I have an MH 721... Blade depth is key, then downforce for fine tuning. With the blade depth set right, downforce should be around 50-70. Also make sure your carriage is sitting ON the tracks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flambore 0 Posted November 24, 2008 I'm interested in buying a number of rolls, but I'd like to know what colors I'm getting. I have an Oracal color chart, if there's a way to compare the colors offered here in the 8.5" width. thanks, Frank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenimes 42 Posted November 24, 2008 I think there are comparable colors, but you may want to speak with our Sales department to find out which ones are close to the Oracal color chart. 425-481-3555 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metatrox 0 Posted November 28, 2008 Any other feedaback on this? Im very interested in getting the starter pack just so i have a selection of colors for basic stuff. But only 1 review and its not so good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flambore 0 Posted November 28, 2008 I just ordered a bunch of the stuff, so I'll let you know after next Wednesday. I'll also post the Oracal color equivalent once I get them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metatrox 0 Posted November 29, 2008 Wonderful! greatly appreciate it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crom 0 Posted December 3, 2008 i just got a pcut and some aechen vinyl, got the 4 color starter pack and a 10yd each of black and white. haven't stuck anything significant yet except for making 40" riders in the black and putting it on piece of plywood painted with kils. I left the board for a couple of days outside covered and the vinyl is seperating from the board already. I smoothed it out when applied and rubbed it down reasonbly well. It is starting to pull away at some spots from the board. It doesn't seem to be sticking that well. I know it's not the kils because i've had sign guys cut vinyl for me and i applied it myself with the same setup. I can't even remove the previous vinyl without pullin up the paint. I've used the white for a couple of small things. It isn't opaque, there is some see through. Probably will go with a more established brand. overall i am happy with my pcut and the customer service i got when i had some startup problems. see my first impression post i'm putting up now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites