ddprinting 15 Posted May 14, 2015 So I just bought some storage units and am working on a new sign to put up. The storage facility is called Outback Storage. I would like some rolling hills over the name but wondering about copyright issues with Outback steakhouse. What are your thoughts with the windmill, sun and rolling hills? Is this too close to some other logo or do you have any suggestions or you think this is fine for a 4'x8' sign on a storage unit building? Looking for any input, thanks!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pshawny 410 Posted May 14, 2015 Personally, I would say they are different enough not to cause any confusion between the two companies. Of course, any advice that you receive here won't hold up in a court of law. Pay a lawyer and get actual legal advice. If Outback Steakhouse wants to sue you, they can and will. They might not be in the right, or win, but they could try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
express2100 154 Posted May 14, 2015 I don't see copyright being an issue. From a design standpoint that windmill must be huge up close ! It's not proportionate to the mountains and the sun gives me the same feeling. Maybe lose the windmill and make the sun much bigger and popping up from behind the mountains with some big rays...... just a thought Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vector 8 Posted May 14, 2015 Yea I don't see a problem with that , not the same font and and the hills are not the same style , but from far away people might think it's the steakhouse haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ddprinting 15 Posted May 14, 2015 haha ya its a huge windmill....i know the windmill needs to be small and so does the sun but just getting some thought about the overall copyright thing. Thanks for your input!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slice&dice 2,450 Posted May 14, 2015 That combination of the SAME STYLE DESIGN with those rolling hills above the text is gonna be problematic, I would think Look into SignBlazer Elements, which has a few rustic sign borders included in the Library (Draw menu --- SignElements -- Panels) There are three different types with wood branches as borders, and two with scenes that say "Outback" (one a windmill and another with hopping kangaroos) -- Jerry Bonham, the creator of SignBlazer, was Australian, so that's why these are in there !!! You would be able to use these, without copyright issues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeremySI 18 Posted May 14, 2015 I highly doubt Outback Steakhouse would give a single damn about your design for some small storage unit, I don't even see them catching the smallest wind of the matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darcshadow 1,626 Posted May 14, 2015 I have to admit, first thing that came to mind when I saw the image was the steak house. That being said, after closer inspection it is significantly different, however it's that quick glance that could cause head aches if the steakhouse place wanted to press it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 14, 2015 Create your own, ORIGINAL graphics and forget about it and move on. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildgoose 4,200 Posted May 14, 2015 Careful study of the law protects them even from other work that is inspired by their design however it is NOT in the same sales market so there is an argument that direction too. I think I would either do as Skarekrow suggested and design something original or at the very least hire an attorney to try and get some clarity. Easier to just come up with something else. Maybe something depicting a backyard ghetto kind of theme. Ha ha ha! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
express2100 154 Posted May 14, 2015 Just don't start serving steaks and bloomin onions out of a unit and you should be fine 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildgoose 4,200 Posted May 14, 2015 Just don't start serving steaks and bloomin onions out of a unit and you should be fine BWaaahaaahaaa! ROFL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sal316 166 Posted May 14, 2015 If you have to ask, then it is usually a good idea to change the design. The design is similar enough that it may cause you problems. It is not worth the hassle. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
constricted 27 Posted May 14, 2015 that looks way too close to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djque 246 Posted May 14, 2015 that look familiar. Hmm track walk days lol. looks like a triple double into a roller. or in Bubba's mind a quad to the windmill on to a step on step off. But I would change it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pshawny 410 Posted May 14, 2015 It needs a boomerang & a koala Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
knucklehead 530 Posted May 14, 2015 Remember, there are people (shyster lawyers, 'Harley reps', same thing), who's business is finding copyright violations, and reporting them to whatever company, for a piece of the lawsuit pie. Sad, but true. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George2014 6 Posted May 15, 2015 As long as its different theme you'll be okay. Outback is plain English word and can not be trademarked. Law allows to trademark 'use' meaning you can not open restaurant with this name but storage company is fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
George2014 6 Posted May 15, 2015 In order to succesfully sue you outback will need to proof that customers confusing your outback with their's which is impossible in your case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
express2100 154 Posted May 15, 2015 Is this the existing name of the business or did you name it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 15, 2015 I'd rather store my stuff 'in-side' or 'up-front' rather than 'out-back'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darcshadow 1,626 Posted May 15, 2015 Problem comes from not them being able to successfully sue, but them starting the suit in the first place. They have the money to start it and drag it out as long as they want and likely cause the rental place to go broke trying to fight it, even if they are 100% legal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildgoose 4,200 Posted May 15, 2015 All the former comments taken into consideration I think as long as they are not right next door to a restaurant and aren't some big chain business (which if they are that big they better spend a little to cover their butt) then the likelihood that there would ever be a problem is pretty low and I would think the worst case would be a cease and desist letter kind of thing that may or may not be worth fighting. I think I would still change the layout a little if it were me. The scenery over the top is pretty similar in overall design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 15, 2015 "I think as long as they are not right next door to a restaurant ...then the likelihood that there would ever be a problem is pretty low" Who's to say they won't become a Large, Chain Business ? Besides, why would one enter into a business situation with their a$$ exposed with a questionable name/ logo ? Don't be a Slacker, create an original. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lablover 218 Posted May 18, 2015 First thing I thought when I saw it was the Steakhouse... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites