younameitvc 1 Posted April 16, 2015 I am using GreenStar by USCUTTER as my vinyl of choice. I recently started selling items that I needed to roll into tubes. I have been getting a lot of bad feedbacks because the decals are being unraveled and have tons of air pockets and wrinkles. I am using R-Tape as my mask. When the decal is rolled the mask is perfectly flat, no wrinkles, no bubbles. It seems like the mask is not adhering to the backing paper so when rolled it lifts and then becomes wrinkled and air pocketed. My customers are not experts on vinyl and are just ruining their decal upon receiving because they try and squeegee them out. It never did this before and I have been using the GreenStar vinyl for awhile. HELP? Tricks, Tips? Best way to inform customers this is normal? Or is it not normal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cal 393 Posted April 16, 2015 How tight are you rolling it? How big is the decal and what tube are you shipping in? Cal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
younameitvc 1 Posted April 16, 2015 not super tight. First complaint the decal was 12"H x 30"w. Other is Ram Bed Stripes 11"W x 48"W . Shipping in 2"x24" kraft tubes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
signyouup 178 Posted April 16, 2015 Are you rolling them app tape out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
younameitvc 1 Posted April 16, 2015 Yes. Decal showing. Im waiting on one of my ebay buyers to send me the pic of the decal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted April 16, 2015 way too tight of a roll with app tape on the vinyl - go up to the 10x12x12 priority box or bigger if needed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,708 Posted April 16, 2015 . I roll all of my decals loosely, in 6" open top boxes. I buy my boxes at Uline..I don't ever have shipping problems.. Pay the money to ship a decent product, so it arrives great for your buyer... Figure your shipping boxes into your price... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moody Blue 505 Posted April 16, 2015 I ship large decals all the time and never ran into issues like this. I try to use a flattened box if applicable rather than a tube. Try a different app tape such as R-Tape it may hold up better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,708 Posted April 16, 2015 I ship large decals all the time and never ran into issues like this. I try to use a flattened box if applicable rather than a tube. Try a different app tape such as R-Tape it may hold up better. They said they are using R-Tape as their mask... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moody Blue 505 Posted April 16, 2015 They said they are using R-Tape as their mask... Dur dur dur I guess it helps for me to read lol. I would think the R-Tape would keep it from damage but I guess I was wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildgoose 4,200 Posted April 16, 2015 Part of the issue could be the "vinyl of choice". Even though this is the USCutter forum we tend to be a little brutal in our remarks about that vinyl. Try a better brand of vinyl combined with the other tips to achieve success. The effect your clients are experiencing is called tunneling and it will happen on any vinyl if it's rolled too tight but the thick green star stuff is more susceptible. I use GS for sandblast resist and to line shelves in my kitchen. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MadHatterGraphix 1,258 Posted April 16, 2015 Ship flat, or in a bigger box. Start charging for handling a lot of people are starting to do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pshawny 410 Posted April 16, 2015 2" tube is too small. I use 3" tubes, 4" tubes, & 6"x6"x24" boxes. Even in a 4" tube, some designs might form tunnels in the tape. Anything small enough to ship flat goes in a rigid photo mailer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
younameitvc 1 Posted April 17, 2015 Here is an image of one I just rolled up and left overnight to show you what it does. Now I just started using these 2" tubes. Before I was using other methods and never really got a complaint unless the USPS was careless and bent it. I before was just folding them around cardboard and putting into a 12.5x19 bubble mailer and stamping do not bend on it. Never really had issues. I thought these would be more sturdy and less likely to damage. So Im guessing rolling too tight is just a no no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,708 Posted April 17, 2015 Selling copyrighted images is a bigger NO NO.....If your selling that Chevy Bowtie. Just a heads up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,708 Posted April 17, 2015 these type of boxes are great for shipping decals, They are strong, and open on top, different sizes http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-4127/Corrugated-Boxes-200-Test/12-x-6-x-4-Long-Corrugated-Boxes?FromOrderHistory=Y Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
younameitvc 1 Posted April 17, 2015 No not selling that. Just cut that and masked it to roll as an example. The ones I'm selling that im rolling up and having problems with are custom ram bed stripes 11x48 and custom duramax/dirtymax windshield banners that are 5x44 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
younameitvc 1 Posted April 17, 2015 I was'nt going to waste 48" to roll up and show since it would get ruined. Figured I roll something I wouldnt mind getting ruined 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,708 Posted April 17, 2015 show some pictures of them.. If your selling something that says RAM,, Dodge, Duramax,,,or has any type of logos Ram Head etc. that belongs to them, it is copyright infringement. If your just selling a plain stripe for any truck bed, Your ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
younameitvc 1 Posted April 17, 2015 how much to ship something like that. whats the average weight in ounces. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,708 Posted April 17, 2015 DuraMax is a copyrighted/trademarked name/logo. Does not matter what font you make it in... I cannot read the white one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
younameitvc 1 Posted April 17, 2015 I was unaware. I thought the only thing they can copyright is their logo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MZ SKEETER 4,708 Posted April 17, 2015 If you see something already made, and you didn't originally create it, It is copyrighted.. It does not have to be registered, just created... Any BRAND name, or logo is copyrighted/trademarked. Thats like if you come into my store and steal my original designs, I can come after you. Because I own that design that I created. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
younameitvc 1 Posted April 17, 2015 On top of when researching before I started selling these out of my shop. There is atleast 5 companies in the USA named Duramax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites