Not caring for clipart online only.

[MadHatterGraphix 1,258]

I've been a huge fan of Corel Draw since CD8 then I upgraded to Corel x3 and bought x4,x5,x6 and now just got my copy of x7. I tried x7 for 2 weeks before I purchased this however I never bothered to test out the clipart function. Well I just got my x7 and wanted to browse the clipart see if anything was new or what they removed. And then I found out you have to use corel connect and I personally hate it, it loads slow and hard to navigate. Now my other problem is what if my internet goes out and I remember they have a file I want to use I cant get it. Does anyone else hate this?

[skarekrow 1,842]

One of the main reasons I went with VinylMaster over Flexi is not ever needing a dongle or internet connection to use the software.

It's also the reason I stay with the Adobe suite I currently have and avoid the 'cloudy version'.

[Sue2 920]

I hate the CLOUD stuff....basically you are "renting" the programs.

When you quit paying ....your files are useless.

 

Sue2

[OWJones 1,981]

I try and avoid anything that I can't always use without relying on an outside server or site to operate.   Unfortunately, online services and online storage with monthly service fees are being seen as the new revenue stream for many businesses - why sell you something once when we can keep selling it to you over and over and over and if you ever stop paying, well too bad...

[Sue2 920]

I am surprised Quark or some other company hasn't jumped in

and taken advantage of the opportunity here to serve those

who don't want to be on Cloud program rental status.

 

Sue2

[MadHatterGraphix 1,258]

I just think they should give us the option to download the clipart from their website or use the cloud. Most of us have 1TB or higher HDDs so its not that kind of issue. I also bought the physical copy so It should be on it. And stating your buying the license to use the program instead of just buying the program is a bunch of BS. I cant believe we are letting these companies pull this.

[Moody Blue 505]

I hate the CLOUD stuff....basically you are "renting" the programs.

When you quit paying ....your files are useless.

 

Sue2

 

Files aren't useless when you quit paying BUT you better have access to an older version of Illustrator or another vector software to open the file in. I have the Adobe CC suite and LOVE it. The misconception with this is that the files are NOT stored on an online server nor require you to even have internet to access them. They are saved and stored just like any other .ai, .eps, .svg...or whatever...on your computer, external HD, dropbox, or wherever you have them stored anyways. The computer has to "update license" every 60 days and is the only time you are required to have internet "cloud" access. Works just like any other software besides that...oh yeah and I have my suite on 3 different computers which you cannot do with the regular software license  .

 

Not to mention you can still buy Adobe CS6 Programs...costs $599 for 1 License (1 computer) of 1 software. Which means next year when it is outdated will need to purchase another or just keep using the outdated program until you are forced to update due to OS compatibility or better features. As compared to the $500 subscription to CC which (yes will have to renew each year) but now have access to 20+ programs (no additional cost), multiple computer licensing (no additional cost), access to Typekit and Adobe Color (no additional cost), automatic updates to the latest greatest version (no additional cost), exclusive access to "Adobe Marketplace" which contains (free for adobe CC users) stock photos, mock up templates, vector art, icons, and much much more. Seems to me that the CC outweights the single license in cost and capability. Just got to look at the big picture and not the "rental" based thinking. 

[Wildgoose 4,200]

I'd like the ability to have AI on multiple computers and have access to the files from each. That part sounds great. I bought AI CS5 about 5 years back when it first came out. Was able to utilize the Student savings (my kids) and paid about $200 (Just Illustrator not the whole suite). So far I have had maybe 2 times that I received files that wouldn't open for me that came from CC. Every single cutting utility out there requires an older version for compatibility to cut. If you use the plug-in it is simply converting the file on it's way to the cutter.  I have some sweet plug-ins that cost more than the original program that help make the drawing experience more fun and otherwise have not felt hindered. That's about $20 per year so far and getting cheaper as it goes. One of these days it may become necessary to step it up and there are some cool features that I see the CC version has that I don't doubt that I would enjoy. Most particular the live text edit that is way upgraded from doing it the old fashioned way. I do a lot of vector conversions of old logo's for people and spend a lot of time manipulating text for an exact match and think I could benefit from that new feature. The rest are things like gradient shades in stokes etc and really don't play a very big factor in what I do right now. There are work-arounds for those anyway, the new buttons are basically quick keys to get there faster. I just have to convert stokes to be able to add a gradient etc... I have an old CS2 version running at work and the differences are drastic compared to CS5 so I have little doubt that I would likewise fall in love with the new toys in CC and that's partly why I have avoided even the free trial because I have other things I would rather spend my money on right now and don't want to get hooked. 

[Sue2 920]

Good points WG......

Anyone providing more current Adobe files can either save down the files or

provide a pdf you can use. 

 

I noted a couple of weeks ago that the whole Adobe CS2 Suite or individual

programs are available free from Adobe......

http://forum.uscutter.com/index.php?/topic/48182-adobe-cs2-programs-still-available/

 

LINK to Adobe:

https://helpx.adobe....downloads.html#

It's not a perfect solution but will work for many and help to get some

basic experience with Illustrator and Photoshop for free.

 

Moody,  I know the Cloud files are still on your own hard drive but,

correct me if I am wrong; I don't believe they can be opened by

those older program versions....most program files can only be opened

by newer versions but not older.

 

Sue2

[Moody Blue 505]

Good points WG......

Anyone providing more current Adobe files can either save down the files or

provide a pdf you can use. 

 

I noted a couple of weeks ago that the whole Adobe CS2 Suite or individual

programs are available free from Adobe......

http://forum.uscutter.com/index.php?/topic/48182-adobe-cs2-programs-still-available/

 

LINK to Adobe:

https://helpx.adobe....downloads.html#

It's not a perfect solution but will work for many and help to get some

basic experience with Illustrator and Photoshop for free.

 

Moody,  I know the Cloud files are still on your own hard drive but,

correct me if I am wrong; I don't believe they can be opened by

those older program versions....most program files can only be opened

by newer versions but not older.

 

Sue2

They can be opened if....my rule of thumb...saved out to an older version. You are correct the CC version is only capable with CC. I always save out to CS6 since I have that on my laptop and just in case. Plus I always save my "cut ready" files to EPS 3 so I don't have to open in Ai if im in a rush and just want to send directly to the cutter.

[skarekrow 1,842]

All the above add credence to my migration away from Adobe and towards Open Source (Gimp & Inkscape) and VinylMaster.

[Sue2 920]

All the above add credence to my migration away from Adobe and towards Open Source (Gimp & Inkscape) and VinylMaster.

skare....how do you like working with GIMP?

Has it kept up with new whistles & bells?

 

I tried it many years ago but stayed with Corel.

 

Sue2

[skarekrow 1,842]

Not too bad, especially considering the cost. I have been messing it with here and there so when the day

comes when I've completely had it with Adobe's money schemes, it will be a somewhat painless transition.

[jaybyrd 3,770]

Love that I can legally install vinyl master on as many computers as I want as a design software. Only downside is you can only cut on the one that is activated,

[Moody Blue 505]

All the above add credence to my migration away from Adobe and towards Open Source (Gimp & Inkscape) and VinylMaster.

 

To each their own. Im a graphic artist by trade and use at least 10 of the programs daily so it makes sense for me to keep up with it. I love it BUT also don't have to pay for the licensing either 

[jaybyrd 3,770]

That not paying part helps lol