coreycss21 0 Posted February 17, 2015 Hey guys, What is the best way to apply vinyl without wrinkles or bubbles. I'm wrapping a champ kart (gokart) and it has pretty big fender flares and i seem to get a bit of tiny bubbles. What would be the best way to apply it i heard of a wet application but i haven't looked into it to much. As always thanks for the help! I normally use oracal 631 or 651. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted February 17, 2015 Wrong material, you need a cast vinyl to conform to those curves. Also easier with a vinyl with air release channels. Look specifically at wrap vinyls for your type of application 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay2703 704 Posted February 17, 2015 What he said ^^^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mb20music 760 Posted February 17, 2015 Also, you may need to apply some heat with a heat gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
constricted 27 Posted February 17, 2015 yea i tried wrapping a toyota emblem in 651 when i first got into vinyl.. calendared vinyl just doesn't work lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coreycss21 0 Posted February 17, 2015 Wrong material, you need a cast vinyl to conform to those curves. Also easier with a vinyl with air release channels. Look specifically at wrap vinyls for your type of application Ahhh okay that's a new one for me. Is there a certain vinyl you recommend? I normally do a lot of race car stuff mostly with flat panels or sometime with slight flares or bends. Do you guys think the 631 or 651 would work with the heat and/or the wet application. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coreycss21 0 Posted February 17, 2015 Here is one i did with the 651. Is the casting vinyl considered performance vinyl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted February 17, 2015 Yes... with Oracal, the 751 Cast vinyl is Performance vinyl and conforms nicely around compound curves with a little heat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mac6986 93 Posted February 17, 2015 ... Do you guys think the 631 or 651 would work with the heat and/or the wet application. CAST! CAST! CAST! for wrapping only! Heat only for wrapping!! adding moisture under something your wrapping is asking for trouble. Cast is thinner, easier to conform, and has a lot more give and stretch built into it. Most wrap vinyl will have air release channels. Makes life much easier. Calendared is already pre-stretched due to the way its manufactured. Its more brittle and tears with moderate stretching. Using calendared to save a few bucks will be outweighed when your customers dont come back when the graphics peel and wrinkle because calendared is not designed for wrapping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coreycss21 0 Posted February 17, 2015 Okay thanks so much for the help everyone! Is their any recommendations of a brand? How is Oracals 751 vinyl and also i heard of 3M 1080 but i couldn't find any for a 24 inch cutter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lablover 218 Posted February 18, 2015 Something learned for me today....thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go-C Graphics 856 Posted February 18, 2015 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="coreycss21" data-cid="385811" data-time="1424205199"><p> Here is one i did with the 651. Is the casting vinyl considered performance vinyl?<br /> <br /> <span rel='lightbox'><img src='https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10647088_854048397970854_6051892125040006928_n.jpg?oh=b7702e101dbbe32c522dc17e85e040a3&oe=554A6B8A&__gda__=1434999346_18c343fb38f1ccca46f05aa38ccb9b82' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span></p></blockquote> What is your definition of wrapping? You're telling me you wrapped that whole car "blue" using 651 vinyl? Or are you just talking about the yellow car numbers and other graphics? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moody Blue 505 Posted February 18, 2015 I use 751 when I do large decals or what I consider a "half wrap" or just a large decal across a portion of a car. Now If you are planning to do a full wrap go out and get wrap grade vinyl for a few reasons....1) the air release channels will be your BEST friend. Wrapping takes lots of patience and moving the vinyl around. Avery SW 900 and 3M 1080 are great for this. 2) Low tac (removable) adhesive allows you to place and remove the vinyl without damaging it or it sticking too soon so it can be adjusted during install. Wrap vinyl needs to be "post heated" to allow proper adhesion...this is because of the low tac heat set adhesive. 3) The wrap vinyl is MUCH MUCH more forgiving and "stretchy" than regular vinyl. Heat will help the wrap vinyl stretch (just dont overstretch it) around curves/corners to allow a seamless install as where regular vinyl will start to melt/fold under itself. One of the best features of this type of vinyl is that it can be fully removed without leaving any adhesive or damage to the vehicle. Pulls off easily with no damage to the surface just to be cleaned up and re-wrapped which makes it perfect for race cars and go carts that will change sponsors or numbers frequently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coreycss21 0 Posted February 19, 2015 <blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="coreycss21" data-cid="385811" data-time="1424205199"><p>Here is one i did with the 651. Is the casting vinyl considered performance vinyl?<br /> <br /> <span rel='lightbox'><img src='https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10647088_854048397970854_6051892125040006928_n.jpg?oh=b7702e101dbbe32c522dc17e85e040a3&oe=554A6B8A&__gda__=1434999346_18c343fb38f1ccca46f05aa38ccb9b82' alt='Posted Image' class='bbc_img' /></span></p></blockquote> What is your definition of wrapping? You're telling me you wrapped that whole car "blue" using 651 vinyl? Or are you just talking about the yellow car numbers and other graphics? Wrapping is probably not the right term but that's what i call it lol. This is what i mean when i say wrapping. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Go-C Graphics 856 Posted February 19, 2015 Wrapping is probably not the right term but that's what i call it lol. This is what i mean when i say wrapping. Oh ok. I was about to say.... You're the MAN if you're wrapping with 651. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coreycss21 0 Posted February 19, 2015 Oh ok. I was about to say.... You're the MAN if you're wrapping with 651. LOL Haha i wish! From what i kinda studied and from what everyone seemed to say is if it's on a flat surface the 631 or 651 should work but if their is a lot of bends to use the 751. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted February 19, 2015 this is wrapping some curves . . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites