DNA_Vinyl 262 Posted November 30, 2014 Does it matter what vinyl is used like 651 or does it have to be masking vinyl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted November 30, 2014 for glassware any scrap works pretty good - paint mask just comes off a little easier but I use whatever scraps are around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DNA_Vinyl 262 Posted November 30, 2014 Right on. Thank you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smendlik 113 Posted November 30, 2014 I always used 651 and had great success, even with fine detail. Just be sure to rub it down well so it has a good bond around the edges. I found that soaking the glass in hot soapy water for about 30 minutes after etching made the vinyl come off a lot easier. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ravenwind / One Off Grafx 187 Posted November 30, 2014 i use 651 on all my stuff and to get it off glass easier use hot tap water the stuff peals right off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildgoose 4,200 Posted December 1, 2014 I use my extensive unused supply of green star. If I have finer details I sometimes switch to 651. I use the excess vinyl to wrap the rest of the item too so it is protected from overspray. I just cut it in strips like wide tape 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlvied 292 Posted December 1, 2014 DNA I always use paint mask but that is just a preference that I have. I also usually etch a little deeper than just frosting it. I don't do many mugs anymore. I mainly do plate glass and mirrors from the back so I can edge light them. I have never tried green star or 651. I started with paint mask and just stuck to it. I also use Raysist sr3000 if I am doing really detailed stuff or just don't feel like weeding the small stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DNA_Vinyl 262 Posted December 1, 2014 Thanks for all the feed back everyone. Good stuff. We are poking around the idea of sandblasting glass. So...yeah. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildgoose 4,200 Posted December 1, 2014 Glass is easy to work with and tons of fun. Takes a lot less effort to get a good deep etch than you'd think too. I rarely just frost mine, I prefer a good etch that they can feel and appreciate. Kind of the "cool" factor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krookz 10 Posted December 1, 2014 I use 651 for my etching. As long as you don't go overboard(deep etches) it works fine. I picked up some etching stuff from these guys... cant even cut the stuff with my machine. Waste of money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DNA_Vinyl 262 Posted December 2, 2014 My first etch! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cal 393 Posted December 2, 2014 Ah, the hook has been set! Nice work, Cal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smendlik 113 Posted December 2, 2014 Just like crack, the addiction starts with the first one! Nice job. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlvied 292 Posted December 2, 2014 DNA you are hooked now. Wait until you start etching on the glass and edge lighting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DNA_Vinyl 262 Posted December 2, 2014 yeah I'm pretty excited about it. I've already got 3 orders for these mugs. Now don't flip out but I charged $10 each... too low? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rlvied 292 Posted December 2, 2014 Too low but it depends on your area Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TT57 135 Posted December 2, 2014 DNA, it is too low if you are supplying the glass. i did these for $10each and they supplied the glasses. That was last yr. Now i am working on more for them. It is a wine club group. Their name is on the back. Don't know why they are black. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildgoose 4,200 Posted December 3, 2014 $10-$12 for the etch then add for the mug seem about right. As you have probably discovered it very time consuming. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DNA_Vinyl 262 Posted December 4, 2014 $10-$12 for the etch then add for the mug seem about right. As you have probably discovered it very time consuming. It's not bad, no more time consuming than making a normal decal. I actually don't do any sand blasting. My bro does it all from where he works. I design it, cut it, apply it...he blasts it. $10 too low eh? Maybe $12? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildgoose 4,200 Posted December 4, 2014 I just find the time spent wrapping things up so they are safe is more plus all the time unwrapping them and I can't get anything done in under 1/2hr. I try to blast a bunch of pieces at a time but it;s usually one off things for friends. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCMoney 91 Posted December 4, 2014 I use what ever scrap I have, never had issues with fine detail and cheap vinyl. Test mug I did last night. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DNA_Vinyl 262 Posted December 4, 2014 Oh nice. I'm going to make a good one for myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lablover 218 Posted December 4, 2014 I went to do one and my wife said sandblasting the "glaze" off a coffee mug would ruin it eventually. Guess the ceramic would be exposed to water when washing and thats a bad thing...LOL I guess you could seal it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dakotagrafx 7,297 Posted December 4, 2014 I went to do one and my wife said sandblasting the "glaze" off a coffee mug would ruin it eventually. Guess the ceramic would be exposed to water when washing and thats a bad thing...LOL I guess you could seal it? I have seen many people do it some seal some don't but always suspected the same thing - without the glaze the fired clay is porous and would let liquid seep in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DCMoney 91 Posted December 5, 2014 I went to do one and my wife said sandblasting the "glaze" off a coffee mug would ruin it eventually. Guess the ceramic would be exposed to water when washing and thats a bad thing...LOL I guess you could seal it? I wondered about this but noticed the base of the mug has a exposed ring to give the mug some grip. My guess is that etching will be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites