lil craft shack 0 Posted May 2, 2014 I use a lot of my vinyl on wood and MDF painted boards and such.... After I apply the vinyl is there a sealer I can use over the vinyl??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 2, 2014 If the prep is handled properly and good quality products are used, there should be no need for a sealer. Heard of folks spraying Frog Juice on a finished sign... can't vouch for it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joker 618 Posted May 3, 2014 I use Rust Oleum, Crystak Clear Enamel and it works pretty goood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 3, 2014 May I ask, "Why?", Joker? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joker 618 Posted May 3, 2014 I did a canvas for my personal use in my Dallas Cowboys room and some of the letters lifted. So i decided to seal it out with that stuff and it has stayed.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rzrtrav 15 Posted May 3, 2014 We use MDO boards on alot of signs, after a good base coat of paint and applying the vinyl we have never had a need to do anything else, some of our signs have lasted up to 7 to 8 years outside year around before showing any signs of wear or fading. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pshawny 410 Posted May 3, 2014 How long after painting wood do you need to wait before applying vinyl? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 3, 2014 QUOTE> "... some of the letters lifted." 'sealing out' isn't effecting the actual problem... you have adhesion issues between the canvas and vinyl. the vinyl isn't bonded to the (primed & painted?) canvas. I still say, with proper prep and good products, not sealer is needed. Would just be another variable and area for problems. The proper paints and vinyls seal themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 3, 2014 I have always gone with the nose check for gassing. If there is no longer a paint odor, the paint is cured enough for vinyl. There are a number of exceptions, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil craft shack 0 Posted May 4, 2014 Hi and thank you!!!! I use good paint and prep well... I use oracle 631... Is that my problem??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil craft shack 0 Posted May 4, 2014 I'm thinking the only signs I had a problem with were the ones I didn't use an acrylic paint as base.... I also noticed if I seal the wood with a mod podge or laquer it adheres better... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 4, 2014 No, it's not okay. 631 is made for indoor use... Use at least Oracal 651. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil craft shack 0 Posted May 4, 2014 Can I also ask a quick question about vinyl decals for wall adhering??? The oracle 631 is what I use for that as well... I haven't found a great transfer paper for this... All wants to hold onto the vinyl ... I've tried HT55 and GXF 100 .... I hope I labeled those right.... But those are what I'm reading are the good transfer tapes and they suck for me... Is it because some have had a gloss finish and others matte??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil craft shack 0 Posted May 4, 2014 Well the signs for indoor I use 631 and outdoor is 651... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 4, 2014 The finish (sheen) of the vinyl can definately effect how well the transfer tape works. The matte sheen needs a stickier tape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil craft shack 0 Posted May 4, 2014 @skarekrow... I heard acrylic paints are the best... Do you seal that before vinyl goes in for better adhering??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil craft shack 0 Posted May 4, 2014 Ok that's what I've been reading.... I've been a wonderful help thank you... I've noticed the paper tapes are so much easier to work with instead of the clear ones... Unless your using them for a car window type decal.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 4, 2014 Most folks on here prefer the paper tapes. Honestly, I would use 651 on all MDO signage... regardless of wether indoors or out. I prime MDO with and finish with Does not need any sealers past that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lil craft shack 0 Posted May 4, 2014 You rock thank you so much for all your help!!!! I was thinking of just doing 651 and not stressing it!!! Lol... Wish you could do it for walls too but that's a whole new battle I'll have to figure out now!!!!! So appreciate all your time!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skarekrow 1,842 Posted May 4, 2014 No problem... Happy to help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites