daisygirl 0 Posted August 13, 2009 Someone posted that the best vinyl for the car window decals is Oracal 651. Do you agree? have you tried something else & liked it better? Also, what is the best type of transfer tape for car window decals? Sorry if these are silly questions. I'm a newbee. :- Thanks, Ann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay2703 704 Posted August 13, 2009 +1 on Oracal 651 for windows. Jay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benr98 40 Posted August 13, 2009 651 for me as well. As far as application tape, some will prefer paper, others clear. I feel it's a personal choice. I prefer PerfecTear by Main Tape. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
samconst 0 Posted August 14, 2009 I like 651 as well but I get complaints that when applying it pulls from the window. I use both paper and clear and I found with clear it was worse? Any suggestions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest round2racing Posted August 14, 2009 I use paper for everything. To keep the tape from pulling on the vinyl, I spray the paper, let it sit for a minute or so and it comes right off. I've never used the clear tape, but with all the horror stories I have heard, I think I'll just stick to my paper.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daisygirl 0 Posted August 14, 2009 what do you spray the paper with? What paper do you use? Ann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest round2racing Posted August 14, 2009 I use regular RTape, kinda looks like thin masking tape. I just spray it with homemade app fluid and let it sit for a few minutes. Never had a problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cre8tiveCutter 7 Posted August 14, 2009 I prefer to use the papertape as well but I have used the clear and to me its so much more " stickier" doesnt want to let go of the vinyl at all! Renee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HingaSPL 0 Posted August 30, 2009 I got burned a few times with buying EBAY vinyl. either I don't recieve product or I get really crappy stuff. Last time I ordered 50 yards, I got Sinloihi vinyl. Extremely thin and rips like paper. I'm also cutting stickers for cars. Is the Oracal 651 pretty heavy duty? How long will it hold up for? Any information MUCH appreciated www.TeamHinga.net Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarconastic 29 Posted August 31, 2009 651 is calendared vinyl, so it's a little thicker, ie heavier. But do not judge quality by the thickness. Cast vinyl is much thinner, and less forgiving, but is a better product. One note about it. make sure you have all your colors welded with calendared/intermediate vinyl, I did a job a few months ago for a friend for free, when i first started. I forgot to weld the Cursive style fonts, and had a few cuts through the vinyl between each letter, they shrunk open in a month or so. But she's ok with it, but I will redo it for her when I get a chance. Kevin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HingaSPL 0 Posted August 31, 2009 What vinyl would you recommend? Something a little thinner? Oracal 751 perhaps? I've been working with garbage and am looking for something easier to work with and last longer. I have Scotchlite 3M Reflective, it is a pain in the ass to cut, would the 60degree blade work better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bamafan2277 50 Posted August 31, 2009 I have just gotten started but I am falling in love with 651. It cuts well, weeds well and so far holds up good. I did some test and put small letters .5" and large letters on my windshield and ran them through a wiper test along with 3 trips through a automated car wash. All stayed perfectly and I applied them the same day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HingaSPL 0 Posted August 31, 2009 Cool, sounds like I'm going to give the 651 a try. Where is a good place to order from? Oracal? Is EBAY cheaper? I've seen Oracal 651 on there for sale. Thanks for helping me out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bamafan2277 50 Posted August 31, 2009 USCutter has good prices and with the $9.99 flat shipping get several rolls to take advantage of the cheap shipping!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigjimt 1 Posted August 31, 2009 Try AT-42 Clear by R-Tape........works great wet or dry....one of the few Fellers has it........and yes 651 is very good.....but I use Avery A6 but its all choice...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mars 45 Posted August 31, 2009 My experience has been better durability with the Oracal 651 vs. Avery A6 - I have had failures on some gold graphics I made for one of my car dealers. The Avery discolored and was very weathered looking and shrinking, pulling up on the sharp corner details after just over a year on the job. I bought Oracal 651 to redo them - I don't buy Avery anymore. I haven't had any failures with the Oracal yet - some of the colors I used were Oracal and the Gold and Silver colors were Avery. The silver ones still look OK and all the Oracal ones are fine. I may have gotten a bad roll of gold A6 - I would like to hear what others have experienced. -Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alien 11 Posted September 2, 2009 I looked at a truck yesterday that had a window decal applied on each side when it was bought new in 2002. He is wanting to replace them. They are just starting to crack in the corners of the graphic. This truck is not garaged. It is a work truck. In the weather 24/7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
