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vectorman

who's fault was it

whos falt is it  

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  1. 1. whos falt is it

    • vectorman
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    • kemica- vinyl company
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    • faith
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well gays afther i drag about this one look what happened........

i need your knowledge opinion on this embarrassing one to understand who's fault is it and what went worng.

this is a Gardner car  normally drive on the road

the wether is sunny Israel ,i applied the strips wet

what u see is afther 8 month's in winter and spring time

i used 3 years vynil (kemica-italy)

thanks

Ron

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Did you prep the surface properly before applying the vinyl? Clean all of the wax off.

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Guest round2racing

Looks to me like the vinyl was very thin and almost transparent.

The adhesive failed and the vinyl shrunk and tore.

Since the vehicle was going to be subjected to the weather, it should have had a much higher rating.

I would say the fault lies in the person who chose the thin vinyl and didn't use oracal vinyl.

Just my .02.

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Guest fivestar

That's what happens when you use calendared vinyl instead of cast vinyl.

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I have  Oracal 651 on my trailer for 5+ years and it looks as good as the day it was installed.

Black on a white trailer sitting in the sun 100+ and in the cold.

CKR

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Guest round2racing

I'm currently using ShineRite and my graphics look good. 

I accidentally ordered a calendered vinyl when I first started.

Needless to say, purple paintjob shows through the yellow graphics.

Gonna peel em and do-over!

Sorry this happened to your vinyl job, but live and learn I guess.

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Guest kenya

I agree with Jay & Five.

You must prep the surface & use cast.

Sorry this happened to you. ;)

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Guest round2racing

Bay,what is the 3m primer?

Does it help activate the adhesive so you don't have lifting problems?

I haven't had lifting problems, but why wait for a problem if you can prevent it?

an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!!!

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Guest fivestar

I have  Oracal 651 on my trailer for 5+ years and it looks as good as the day it was installed.

Black on a white trailer sitting in the sun 100+ and in the cold.

CKR

Yeah try putting it over those types of contours he did and see how long it stays.

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well thanks 4 all comments

the thing in this one is the curves .the stuff didn't couth  the curves, it was to much for kemica(italyien made) which i use ofthen whithe no problems

i my opinion & from me my experience  ORACAL 651631 will be just fine for this one.

anyway i fixed the fail white a patch & it is look beeter Lucky me that the costumer is easy going & love the job

i have never saw such thing :that a pro sing adhesive will fa ill on  curves? ,when i applied i didn't stretched i applied wet, and the whole design was made for easy install well i we ;D learned something so there was a good reason to get up in the morning

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I agree with both Five Star and MidSouth

That's what happens when you use calendared vinyl instead of cast vinyl.

The vinyl lifted in the valleys. I see a lot of this with bad wraps. If you do not set the vinyl to the new contour it wants to lift up.

And probably using a bit of heat in the contours & valleys would of helped.  Vinyl has a memory, and without heat of approximately 180 degrees it tries to to revert back to it original shape & form.

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