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ok...possibly stupid question here.

I'm getting ready to attempt my first banner and in the process, the largest thing I have attempted size-wise.  I'm a little unsure of something that may be obvious but I don't want to waste a whole lot of vinyl if I can help it....  anyway....

The banner is 36" X 60" and will have 2 colors.  Its basically an outline of North and South Carolina (in black) with an image of a car inside (also in black) and three lines of red text.  Two of these lines of text interact with the states outline - above and below the car.  The third line is below the outline and shouldn't present a problem.

Anyway, my main question is, can the layering be done on the banner itself or am I gonna have to do it on the application tape like I would a much smaller image?  If i put the 1st layer down wet, once its completely dry, can i do the second layer without the tape pulling on the 1st layer?  I done plenty of small multicolored window stickers but nothing anywhere near this large. 

Again, it may be obvious once I do it but I'd like to have a bit of an idea of what may happen before I start.  Thanks in advance for the expert help you guys always willing to share.

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yes you can, it wont pull the first vinyl up.

good luck its ez show pics when your done.

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For multi color on banners, we always apply it on the banner itself.

I agree please share a pic when you finish.

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As Joe and Jenny have both said... just apply each layer directly onto the banner, one at a time... and I would highly suggest using the "wet method".

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I must have started "too wet"....  after cleaning the banner and getting everything read, i put the first part down.  I got it placed where I wanted it and started squeegy-ing....  I thought I had it pretty dry and even left it sitting a couple hours.  I came back and everything jsut peeled right up....nothing stuck.

Oh well, I'll re-clean and try again with less liquid this time...

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Will you please explain the difference  between the first and second attempt at placing the vinyl on the banner ? I have trouble with the wet application method. Thank you.

Terry

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Sometime back I had read a thread about the various recipes for application fluid.  What I mixed up apparently was way short on the alcohol and was basically water with a squirt of soap.  When I wet everything down and placed the letters, there was too much water and it would never dry.  2 hours later it was still wet and and the letters just peeled right back up - nothing would stick.

I peeled everything back off, dried the banner material completely and then cleaned it off with denatured alcohol.  This time I mixed up a new batch of fluid using 3 cups water, 1/2 cup alcohol and the small squirt of soap. 

For the second attempt, I didnt spray.  We placed the letters, got them positioned, squeegy-ed eveything out, and within minutes peeled the tape off.  This time everything stuck just like it was supposed to.

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I peeled everything back off, dried the banner material completely and then cleaned it off with denatured alcohol.  This time I mixed up a new batch of fluid using 3 cups water, 1/2 cup alcohol and the small squirt of soap.

For the second attempt, I didnt spray.  We placed the letters, got them positioned, squeegy-ed eveything out, and within minutes peeled the tape off.  This time everything stuck just like it was supposed to.

Second time you didn't spray? Please elaborate. Did you use a light mist of the app fluid and no spray of the app tape?  Did you apply dry? I know I sound obtuse but I need to get slapped up side the head with the answers to this problem.

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Oh sorry....brain cramp there.  I meant to say "I didnt spray as much as the first time"......  just forgot to finish the sentence for some reason.....  ;D

I lightly sprayed the area on the banner and very very lightly sprayed the vinyl....

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