cutme 5 Posted March 3, 2009 i just made this screen tonight with heat press vinyl. now i need to get some ink and a squeegee. bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tservice 3 Posted March 3, 2009 sweet do a video!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MonkeyMeMe 8 Posted March 3, 2009 Cut me thy water based ink, it is so easy to clean up,, and works well, what size of screen did you use? I usually use 110 Cant wait to see,,, MMM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tservice 3 Posted March 3, 2009 sorry not trying to jack the thread but, how does screen printing ink dry? I have read heat but also something about a flash.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midwaste 4 Posted March 3, 2009 Sweet, vinyl screenprinting works surprisingly well. Did you use app tape or kamikaze it on there? I have never used app tape, afraid it wouldn't work. "sorry not trying to jack the thread but, how does screen printing ink dry? I have read heat but also something about a flash.." Depends on the ink. Plastisol, the most common needs to reach around 330F to cure. This can be accomplished with a flash cure or dryer or heat gun, etc. Waterbased can be air-dryerd, but really needs to be heat-set, which can be done with an flashcure, iron, or heat gun for longevity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 3, 2009 no app tape it is t shirt vinyl i applied with a heat press. the mesh is 120. mmm; do you use the air dry ink? or do you have to run it through a conveyor dryer? here are some informative vids. http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=ryonet+screen+printing&aq=0&oq=ryonet bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 3, 2009 sorry not trying to jack the thread but, how does screen printing ink dry? I have read heat but also something about a flash.. it is called a "flash dryer" it is a portable heat platen you suspend over your print to "flash" off some of the solvents in the print so you can print more than one color. once all the colors are set, you run the shirt through a conveyor oven to cure the print. bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 3, 2009 Cut me thy water based ink, it is so easy to clean up,, and works well, what size of screen did you use? I usually use 110 Cant wait to see,,, MMM what kind of screen blocker are you using? do you just put tape around the edge? what brand and type of ink are you using? bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 4, 2009 ok,... so the preliminary test was a resounding success! ( i hate how success starts out with suc!) things started off well. i prepressed my test subjects to remove moisture and flatten the printing area. then i screened the first shirt, i should have used more ink on the screen (when they say use lots of ink, they mean it!). i put that shirt on the heat press with the heat platen suspended above it (no pressing) while i screened the second shirt ( more ink this time, better print this time). by the time i was done screening the second shirt, the first was dry to the touch. i then pressed the first shirt for 20 seconds at 350 degrees. i then flashed and pressed the second shirt, and moved on to cleaning up. you can put the leftover ink back in the jar. then i washed my screen in warm water. after that i tried drying it with a heat gun,... bad idea! i should have just let it air dry. anyways, there you have it. i saved butloads of money and time with heat press vinyl on silk screen. bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midwaste 4 Posted March 4, 2009 Looks pretty good! Using your heatpress you should get good results with fade-resistance on waterbased ink. I dont use waterbased, but Matsui seems to have the best reputation. Did you heatpress the vinyl to the screen? I just use regular sign vinyl and remove it when I'm done. If you do it again, I recommend ditching the Speedball screens and hit GMCompanies.com for screens. Cheap, high quality screens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MonkeyMeMe 8 Posted March 4, 2009 looks great,, i use permaset,,water based ink 110 screen opague white,, mostly now tell me you used heatpress vinyl and pressed it to the screen and then you stretched it on frame? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 4, 2009 Looks pretty good! Using your heatpress you should get good results with fade-resistance on waterbased ink. I dont use waterbased, but Matsui seems to have the best reputation. Did you heatpress the vinyl to the screen? I just use regular sign vinyl and remove it when I'm done. If you do it again, I recommend ditching the Speedball screens and hit GMCompanies.com for screens. Cheap, high quality screens. thanks for the info on the ink. i am flattered you think my homade screen is a speedball screen. hes i used joto's multi cut shirt vinyl. bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 4, 2009 looks great,, i use permaset,,water based ink 110 screen opague white,, mostly now tell me you used heatpress vinyl and pressed it to the screen and then you stretched it on frame? thanks. actually i pressed the design to the vinyl after i stretched the screen to the frame. i made the frame just a little bigger than the press platen, so it would slide down over it, and i could press the vinyl on the inside of the screen. bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muttley 0 Posted March 4, 2009 Great work Cutme! I want to play around with screen printing, but don't want to purchase all of the equipment involved. Your little system may just work for me too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 5, 2009 since i burned a hole in my first screen, i had to make another. here are the results. i tried some glow in the dark ink this time and found a cool dragon to put on a shirt. check it out. bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeCamaro 11 Posted March 5, 2009 Great job! Thanx for sharing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 10, 2009 i shot a couple of pics while stretching a screen yesterday. bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 10, 2009 and here are some more... bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoginaranjo 0 Posted March 11, 2009 Very good info thanks for the picture now i see the whole picture thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midwaste 4 Posted March 11, 2009 I applaud your ingenuity, great stretcher design. But, when you can pay $13 for a 20x24 screen, is it worth it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 11, 2009 I applaud your ingenuity, great stretcher design. But, when you can pay $13 for a 20x24 screen, is it worth it? the construction of my screens cost me about $5 a screen. is that worth it? besides, 20x24 is way bigger than i would ever need. i make my screens 15x20 on the inside so they fit over my heat press platen so i can press the vinyl on the inside. where are you getting premade screens for that price? bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muttley 0 Posted March 11, 2009 Great work again Cutme. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 11, 2009 thanks. i strive for perfection in everything i do. i may not always achieve it, but i strive for it. bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
midwaste 4 Posted March 11, 2009 http://www.rhinotoughgraphics.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1_6&osCsid=d548680c34746cda5386931536fa2406 GM Companies (link above) sells 18x20's for 12.95. They have a special going on now for 20x24's for $10 also. These are great frames, varnished, lightweight, best I have ever used, and they just happen to be the cheapest. The other nice thing about buying premade is that you can order a few at different meshes without having to buy a large quantity of a different mesh. If you get a chance, try using regular sign vinyl once on a simple design. It works surprisingly well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cutme 5 Posted March 11, 2009 http://www.rhinotoughgraphics.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=1_6&osCsid=d548680c34746cda5386931536fa2406 GM Companies (link above) sells 18x20's for 12.95. They have a special going on now for 20x24's for $10 also. These are great frames, varnished, lightweight, best I have ever used, and they just happen to be the cheapest. The other nice thing about buying premade is that you can order a few at different meshes without having to buy a large quantity of a different mesh. If you get a chance, try using regular sign vinyl once on a simple design. It works surprisingly well. thanks for the tip. i may get some blank frames from them for the five yards of screen i just bought. i will try your vinyl method and see how it works. cheers! bb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
