I've tried everything I can think of. I cannot find a graphing software and a cutting software that will work together with the Graphtec CE-5000. I can't find an older version of Illustrator 8 for windows, which allegedly works with Cutting Master 4. Illustrator 10 and CS2 will not save in the formats (.PRT or .PLT) that I need for Cutting Master 4, yes I know its an old cutter. I even tried a document conversion which allowed Cutting master 4 to read it, but it didn't convert right when I tried to cut. So I either need a software that will talk to the CE5000 and read Adobe or another software's files, or a graphic software that will save in .PRT or .PLT. I'm probably at close to 15 total hours installing, testing, and uninstalling different software's.